Leaving a Legacy

“The true meaning of life is to plant trees, under whose shade you do not expect to sit.”

-Nelson Henderson

Today I saw a short clip from a well-known PUA within the Red Pill community lamenting what his life has thus amounted to.  As I watched the short clip, only 26 seconds long, I could see the regret across his face like a mask.  Within this short clip, he utters a truth that cuts to the very core of what has driven men all throughout history.  

I don’t have kids.  I don’t have a family. Wow, I have internet fame.  I have a way to make a video and a few thousand people are going to watch it and that’s it.  It’s a waste.

In short, a legacy.

Most men strive to leave some kind of legacy when they finally shrug off their earthly shackles and their legacy can take on many forms.  To some this means inventing or discovering something that will change the world.  For others, it is giving of himself to help his fellow man.

However, for most men, the most base instinct regarding their legacy involves creating a family.  Having children to surpass himself is the oldest form of legacy building known to man.  Before kingdoms, before paintings and busts, before historical texts, there was the desire to have a wife and children.  So deep is this desire to create something that will survive himself is, he will lay down his own life in order to protect his kids.

This gives a man purpose and vision.  With this purpose burning inside him, he will strive to better himself.  That isn’t to say that the only reason that a man should improve himself is because of his family, but it adds a deeper level to his commitment.  It’s a deeper fire that burns quietly in our soul ready to turn into an inferno at a moment’s notice.

As I train in martial arts, I routinely imagine defending myself and defending my family.  When I imagine defending myself, a few emotions come to the surface: fear, apprehension, aggression.  Will I be able to fend off my adversary?

But when I visualize someone attacking my family, I only feel white hot rage – the desire to utterly destroy.

My family is my precious legacy, what I will leave behind me when I am gone.  It’s a deep-seeded instinct to protect, provide, and guide them until it is time for them to take the reins.

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A man without a legacy will lie on his deathbed wishing he had some comforting thought as he takes his last breaths.  Whether it’s knowing he left the world a better place or surrounded by his sons and daughters, he needs to know his life meant something (nihilists excluded).

This is my call to arms for the men out there.  What legacy are you going to leave?  Take some time to reflect on this, but don’t take too long.  Begin taking steps to building your legacy, whatever that may be.  You don’t want to be hitting the mid-point of your life before realizing everything you’ve done thus far is for naught.

For those of you already at this point, it’s not too late, but you will have to stomp the gas to the floorboard.  The black pill is a life that not many men can truly live with and be happy with the results.  Eventually, it will catch up with them and they will realize their folly.

Start young.

Work hard.

Be diligent.

Live with purpose.

Author: Jak

Jak, married and father of three, seeks to help the Red-Pill Community take its next step past the petty cynicism and ineffectual anger. While he recognizes that men are significantly handicapped by the modern legal system and culture, he doesn't accept that traditional marriage is untenable in today's social climate. Rather, men must be willing to adapt to this new world by implementing new tactics and approaches to maintaining a balance of power. Jak is here to provide you with these lessons.

569 thoughts on “Leaving a Legacy”

  1. this is a great topic Jak, and i think it is great you are touching on it here (hopefully you can dig down the rabbit hole on this topic more) as someone who discovered the RP only in last few years (initially Roosh – then ROK, of course) i enjoyed reading articles and probably more so the comments from the fellas.
    learning how guys interacted with women & how women really are, not portrayed, was a real eye opener for me, to say i was shocked was an understatement.
    at 34 now, single with no prospect of female company in my immediate future, this very thing crosses my mind daily.
    i read what Slim & Knee say in their honest posts (tip of the hat there Slim & Knee) and also the other end of the spectrum GOJ & Jim (tip to GOJ & Jim also) and its great to get 2 different sides of “man” or male nature,.
    i cant for the life of me get Pink Floyd’s “Time” out of my head or the whole DSOTM really, the Roger Waters lyric sung by Rick Wright says it perfectly (for my situation at least)

    “lying supine in the sunshine, staying home to watch the rain, you are young and life is long & there is time to kill today, but then one day you find 10 years have got behind you, no one told you when to run you missed the starting gun”

    good topic again Jak.

    1. Very poignant. I felt the same way about the articles and comments. There’s so much disillusionment, but also a freedom associated with not having the blinding fog of society’s lies in your face.

    2. at 34 now, single with no prospect of female company in my immediate future, this very thing crosses my mind daily.

      It took me until age 34 to become comfortable enough (financially, emotionally, professionally, among others) to find a wife and start a family.

      I’m going to put this as plainly as possible: Don’t dwell on it, DO it.

          1. preferably with one wife in a family unit.
            but, I wonder if the guy with 8 kids from several mommas is not winning??

            1. as far as pure genetics, I suppose it is winning, but what goes into a a kid is far more. 20 years of packing knowledge in their brain is the work.

      1. If I actually waited until I was “ready,” I’d probably still be childless. You just got to hold your breath and jump in. The younger the better. I had my first child when I was 26 or 27 and twins about a year after that. If I had them just now, I know it’d be a lot tougher on me. Have kids when you’re young and still have boundless energy.

        1. Yes, yes, thank you for the reminder. My kid isn’t reminding me enough, I still have enough residual energy to drag my carcass out of bed each morning.

          No, seriously, this is an excellent point, and one that has crossed my mind. It would have been physically easier doing this decade or so earlier. Mentally for me, not so much. To the gentleman that is 34, it’s not too late, but you don’t want to let this go much longer.

    3. “(Hopefully you can dig down the rabbit hole on this topic more)”

      That can be arranged. Any particular aspect specifically you have in mind?

      1. well ok, as i mentioned some guys are doing the RP/mgtow/manosphere thing and building ‘the man’ (job,house,money,possessions,frame body & mind etc) and without any real way to leave an impact or ‘pass the torch’ if you will.
        so while its all good doing build ‘the man’ thing my ultimate question is why bother if there is no son/daughter(s) to pass this knowledge/mentality on to, i spent alot of time with my grandparents when i was a boy and i was instilled with the ‘work ethic’ of their generation & not to just give up, so for the life of me i cant just become a drunk or druggie and say f*ck it i quit! and i detest the whole mgtow label, because as so many have said they are just butt hurt because no women want them due to their foul attitudes so they hate on females & scream from the rooftops that “they dont need no woman” (feminist anyone?)
        so at 34 (mainly single years) working in a trade industry i have got a nice collectible rare car, nice guitars & an enviable scotch whisky collection and have also just bought my first house, so what do i do with them, who do i leave them to?
        i also have the opportunity in the coming years to buy into the business where i am and become an owner.
        but the flip side to that is, why get all that stress of being an owner if there is no family to benefit from the hard work put in?

        sorry about the rant Jak, you may have to pick through and maybe grab certain points.
        – possessions (yes i know material possessions dont make the man, but god damn, good sh*t is getting so expensive now days)
        – property
        – wealth
        – business/trades/work ethic
        – experience

    4. Tipping the hat right back at you MAL!
      You’re a young guy…wish I could go back to 34 and get 17 years back.
      And from your posts you absolutely seem to have your mind in the right place. You’ll probably get a great girl sooner than you think. Take care!

      PS. And remember what I said a few weeks ago about Russian 9s!

  2. A very chilling and honest article. Thank you and the rest of the RP community for continuing to funnel uncomfortable truths into to the lives of guys like me who were raised without ever thinking of these things.
    For me, personally, this holds new meaning. I’m doggedly pursuing self-improvement both personally and in my career. It began to worry me recently how I would be remembered and how I would spend my youth. Indeed, it is far more productive to live with purpose.

    1. I remember reading about Julius Caesar coming across a statue of Alexander the Great in Spain. This was a man who had subdued Gaul and was a Consul of Rome. But he was driven by the urge to do more.

      In the end, though, even he was driven to leave a biological legacy, that;s why he adopted Octavian, to continue his line.

  3. Great stuff here. Kinda interesting but I feel this red pill journey is marked by moments of ephipany. You realize the nature of male/female interaction, you then improve yourself, then what? You carve yourself a legacy. I awoke this very morning thinking about how I can do more, be more, and give more. A man cheats death by having his name and his blood go on under the banner he created.

  4. Great post – and maybe the only thing that matters.
    Have been talking/discussing this issue often last couple of years.
    LTR was pressuring me for some time to “merge our lives” and have kids — I stalled (for 6 years) and she is gone. Dodged a bullet in many ways – but feel I should disregard the potential negatives and just have kids…
    I have one kid and is wonderful – just feel more is better.
    Walking your daughter to school, watching her excel in sports,etc – is awesome – catching the stares and glares of business women (picking up dogshit) priceless.
    I have a good life on paper – but something is missing.
    I had a very good life in 20s and 30s – while high-school friends worked on family and business.
    Now they are retiring with grand-kids – and I’m playing catch-up.
    there is still time – and will be having 2 weeks with extended family – and then 2 weeks single male fun…over xmas.

    My grandpa died recently with 2 kids, 6 grandkids, 8 greatgrandkids, and 3 great-great grandkids…
    better than dying alone with cats and long forgotten pickup experiences…

    1. I look at my maternal grandparents. They had two daughters, 5 grandchildren, 5 great grands (and counting). My in-laws had 2 girls, now 7 grands and then when they start having kids….

      I have three and am probably done. I like being young but as I age I will take comfort in seeing my children grow and marry and begin their own journeys.

      Thanks for the reminder, Jak, that life is good even if we don;t have all of the material things. Having less money and a wonderful family beats the heck out of being single and rich (no offence WB)

  5. You mean all those homemade porn videos I uploaded on the interwebs don’t count as a legacy?…dammit.

  6. On a serious note though, I know several childless people who are getting up there and are beginning to have regrets for not having kids. When I was younger I didn’t give that sort thing much thought but, now it seems that most of the time that should be our sole mission in life, to have some kids that have been “raised right”.

        1. Had one guy tell me that his wife was his best friend and he didnt want a kid to come between that. I told him that was the gayest shit i ever heard.

          1. I’ve never been able to grasp the “my wife is my best friend thing”, most men already had friends before they got married. They weren’t looking for another friend they were looking for a wife. There is a difference.

            1. Virtue signalling, pure and simple. It is a way of telling yourself that you are virtuous because you let your wife block all your friends out of your life.

              1. I never thought about it that way…explains alot for me and some friendships that have fallen by the wayside

                1. Try putting a card game together with some married friends you haven’t seen in a few years and you will know what I’m talking about.

                  “Sorry, I can’t. Too busy, I have to XXXX that weekend. Maybe some other time” Then you drive by and see the ominous glow of the TV.

                  1. I totally get that things change post-kids, but neither guys had any(one married a woman who he knew would have trouble getting prego, still married damaged goods anyway. she divorced him)

                    1. Kids do make a challenge, but nothing $50 to a babysitter won’t handle. As soon as the oldest turned 12, we started going out regularly. For me, the bottleneck is finding guys that are ready, willing and able to go out and break stuff. For me, it is tougher than back in my dating days. Back in elementary school, I never would have believed it would be possible that hanging out with the guys would be tougher to coordinate.

              2. Much like the “partnership” marriage thing, calling your wife your “best friend” is a perversion of what a true “best friend” really is.

            2. “I’ve never been able to grasp the “my wife is my best friend thing..”

              Oh hell no. The rare occassion I heard that the guy would end up divorced later.

                1. We all know guys in that situation. I am trying to arrange a poker game with a friend (from Spain) now and even my wife said “he’ll never make it out the door” (yeah, ist that obvious).

                  1. I have fought with this since long before I married. What gets me is how much time is wasted with electronics and then they can’t find the time. It is rather disheartening.

                    1. I have a friend here in the area I have know for 20 years (we actually met at college) and every quarter he sends a text or email about getting together for a beer. My reply is always “Yes. Name the day and we’ll make it happen!” Never any follow up. I used to name places and times, but he always had to check his “calendar.”

                      One time we tried to get together for a beer it took 2 years to actually do it. I wrote him off awhile ago, but leave the door open if he ever finds his balls.

                    2. I understand if it is getting different priorities, but watching my (beta) dad try to hook up with one of his old high school friends, I don’t think it is. Every now and then, he would get a phone call and they would plan something. Then, there were some closed door conversations with my mom, she would cry, and then he would cancel. Eventually, those phone calls stopped.

                    3. she was so manipulative. When I heard the phrase, “Don’t you feel guilty for X?” I came to know the cue.

                    4. And he is from Columbus which I find hard to believe sometimes.

                      Next beer we have together will be under better circumstances. I enjoyed the chat, but was distracted.

        2. There is none. The only point of marriage is to create a stable environment for raising kids. If you don’t want kids, you have no business getting married.
          Plus, why would you set yourself up for getting divorce raped with some broad when you aren’t even interested in fulfilling the function of marriage in the first place?

          1. Getting divorce raped and not even having kids would be about as bad as it could get.

          2. Five hundred years ago, marriage was a luxury afforded to the upper classes so that they could keep peace between warring principalities. Children didn’t even enter into the equation.

            Read the book Marriage, A History, by Stephanie Koontz. But only if you are ready to keep an open mind.

            1. Husband and wife are concepts that are not linked only to aristocracy and have existed in one form or another since we’ve had language as a species.

              1. Errr… for the select few. The rest just rutted around. No point in arguing since no records of anything were kept. Check out that book though.

                1. Nope. Church’s recorded marriages for a long while. If you’re of English descent you can consult Church records going back to the 1500’s. Turns out, normal people became husband and wife all the time.

                    1. And they had a fuk-ton of ABnormal chilluns too. They’re taking over the internet .

                  1. Thank you. Tracing your genealogy you see the marriage records in Jolly Ol’ for princes and paupers alike. This attempt to paint marriage as a recent invention is ludicrous. Maybe in the 800s they didn;t go to the courthouse but there would be a ceremony and all would understand this couple were starting a family.

                    1. It’s a construct of some moderns to deny any traditions and undercut them. It makes sense, with no traditions or institutions left, a tabula raza is created upon which to build a new socialist utopia.

                      The actual modern “government marriage” is new, but marriage has existed in every society since time immemorial. Or at least the ones that survived beyond two generations anyway.

        1. Believe it or not, some people do it for the tax advantage. I even saw couples in the military get married so they could draw quarters allowance and live off base. Outright “contract marriages” were prohibited, but most of these marriages of convenience were dissolved amicably once the partners’ enlistments were up.

          1. The craziest I know of is at BYU (Mormon College). They have a rule there that if you are fornicating, you are subject to expulsion. Every now and then, some couples will drive across to Nevada, elope, have sex for a week, then divorce. Even if that isn’t technically committing fornication, the Church expels them anyway, making a mockery of marriage like that is worse than having sex outside marriage.

          2. That’s shrewd for taxes, but nobody can beat the amazing feat for tax advantages that Hotblack Desiato has discovered and implemented!

              1. I was going for Obscure Reference Of The Thread, but you called me on it, assuming you didn’t need to Google the name of course.

                1. Oh I had to double check my Hitchhiker’s Guide, but you’re cross posting with a guy who subscribed to Heavy Metal magazine before the Internet was a gleam in Algore’s eye… I even had a pirated copy of Heavy Metal the movie on VHS. I’m pretty sure you grok all that. 😉

                  1. I had an advantage here, I am re-reading the 5 book trilogy and the other night came across Hotblack Desiato, at the Restaurant At The End Of The Universe.

                    Adam’s passing was such a loss to humanity and the art of humor.

        1. 1. He’d be really surprised
          2. He’d probably punch me for suggesting it.

          1. every wedding Ive ever been to had the guy proclaim to everyone “he was marrying his best friend” though! liars all

            1. As I age I attend fewer and fewer weddings. That said, the last one I went too, this last summer, I don’t think that was said by anybody. The one before that, which was a good 10 years ago, was highly traditional (Lutheran back when they weren’t sellouts) and nobody mentioned that either. I may need trendy-er friends and family.

                1. I’ll bet you a solid dollar that if you said “Dude, a pink hat” he’d give you the “I’m secure enough in my masculinity…” bullshit speech that effeminate guys use to justify acting like women.

                  You’d be a fool to take me up on this bet. Heh.

                    1. Conveniently those movies are all black and white, hoss!

                      I doubt highly that he wore a pink hat. Pink shirts, sure, but if you wear a pink hat, you’re a faeg.

    1. Agreed, a healthy brood is your only legacy. That is why you see older childless people get so attached to pets.

          1. Same, I don’t presently have any livestock but, I’ve eaten some critters that I had previously named. They taste just as good as ones with no names.

                    1. You have to admit, it does feel good to get out of the rain.

          1. Amen brother. The house is for people. I can’t handle that dog smell in the house, no matter how many times they bathe it and squeeze it’s butthole glands it’s still a dog and smells like one and at my house he’s outside.

              1. Those little goofy dogs that old women keep in the house that they take to the groomer every week lol

                1. Well shoot, home fries, those aren’t dogs.

                  Dogs less than 40 pounds are cats, and cats are useless – Ron Swanson

                  1. I can agree with that, I really hate those little bug eyed dogs that think they can wrangle a T-Rex

              1. Don’t you let that thang out of there, it looks too much like folks to be out of there!

        1. I’m totally a pet person. Life would seem incomplete without a dog sitting at my feet looking at me with a dorky dog look and giving me a “dog smile”.

            1. Work and for-a-purpose animals are fine. Nothing against them, in fact, I highly endorse them being around since they fit a purpose. I’d still like a knucklehead dog around in the house though.

      1. That’s wouldn’t be so sad if didn’t know that majority of those people are lonely and childless.

        1. That’s the thing – women are WIRED to nurture things, so when they don’t have kids, all that natural impulse has to go somewhere.

  7. This was a great article . I don’t see how a man can exist , build his empire , just to have it thrown away or confiscated and distributed by the government or greedy relatives . Watching kids grow from a crawling baby to an adult is such a joy and those memories will last not only with you as you get older but with you’re children after you pass . Sure after a few generations you will be forgotten but a part of you lives on forever .

  8. Wait, you fantasize about pretend defending your family with martial arts? Like those 3 ninjas movies? 😂

  9. Not only is family the most base instinct – for most men, no matter how outstanding they are, it will be the only attainable legacy for them. Humans have walked the earth for nearly 3 million years. Estimates vary, but humans developed agricultural civilization – not just gathering plant foods, but growing them – around 40,000 years ago. Yet, for all of this time, and all of these countless billions of souls. how many names are known to us? Even back only 1000 years, the names of remarkable individuals is short, and with each passing year, the relevance of many of them is fading and some vanish from memory. Technologies change. Languages go extinct. our paper writings are not copied and turn to dust. Our electrons are corrupted or infected by viruses and no one bothers to execute the back up. Cultures are obliterated by disaster, conquered or otherwise erased from memory. Time obliterates all of individualized human achievement over a long enough horizon.

    But, research your family tree and you will notice that as it stretches back, countless mundane and ordinary men are there. Their bloodlines live on in you. And the longer that goes and the more offspring you and your descendants have, the more difficult it is to eradicate. Family is the only lasting legacy that is attainable for the most ordinary of men. Go raw and blast deep.

    1. Some anthropologist noted that modern Westerners forget their ancestors after about three generations. Think about it. Do you know much, if anything, about your great-grandparents? I know very little. That’s where the line stops. Sad truth is that your children’s children’s children, who are your legacy, will eventually forget you too.

      That’s why the BEST way to leave your name on this earth is through your **accomplishments**. Even better if its something tangible that people can hold in their hands, or use in some way.

      1. Due to the genetic curse of longevity in my family I knew my great grandparents and have funny stories of them. They didn’t die until I was a teen.

        However, you are 100% correct because when I talk to people about conversations I had with my “ggm” they look at me like I have two heads

      2. Who invented the wheel? Fire?

        I don’t entirely disagree though.

        My great grandparents watched Hitler’s Luftwaffe bomb their neighborhood. My great great grandparents saw the Great War take away some of their brothers. My grandparents ^n conquered Scandanavia and England. I know their names.

        Not all legacies are for naught. If my great, great grandkids know my name or not is irrelevant, they will have my DNA in them, and by the rules of Nature, I win. Memory not required.

        1. The rules of nature < the rules of man.

          Anybody can knock up a woman. Boom, nature proclaims a winner. Not anybody can construct the cathedral of Chartres.

          1. Without knocking up a woman, the cathedral will never get conceived of. End of the day, the rules of Nature always prevail. People don’t materialize out of thin air.

            1. That’s a pretty low bar. P in V = winner? I like to see my winners suffer a bit more, maybe hit a target that nobody else can hit, or even see.

              1. 99.999% of people never accomplish building a cathedral. If the goal is only to construct great wonders, we wouldn’t exist as a species. The rules of Nature prevail, the names attached to artifacts are irrelevant and almost always lost to history, in time. That, sir, is a low bar.

            1. It kind of is. What a beautiful building, outside and inside.

                1. It is. Have you walked through it? Gorgeous. One doesn’t have to agree with the Catholic Church to admire the beauty of the architecture, stained glass and atmosphere of the joint.

                    1. Wait…were you born in the village of Glenfinnan on the shores of Loch Shiel?

        1. Geocaching, you sign your name on a piece of paper that is in a metal canister hidden somewhere in the forest. That is immortality right there.

              1. On my parents place is this ravine where my great grandparents used for a dump. When I was a little kid, there were all kinds of cool stuff to look at. Over the years, most all of it has been grown over. I suspect in another 20 years, there will be little evidence.

                1. I briefly owned a house where the previous three generations had their own little dedicated landfill. Sure, it would be fun for kids but trust me that shit will be its OWN legacy.

                  1. So in order:

                    Creating Cathedral > Dumping Garbage > having kids. According to anthropologists who have never, apparently, studied language or history.

                    1. Really, knowledge has a legacy that will last longer. Aristotle and Tesla will have a legacy longer than we will, even if they didn’t have kids.

                    2. Knowledge passes in and out of history. The human memory, I submit, is a lesser milestone (although still a milestone) compared to actually sending your life force into the future. People forget. DNA is forever, excepting supernovas of course.

                    3. I hope to create a few different legacies.
                      First and foremost are my kids. May they live long past my death and carry on the bloodline with pride.
                      Second is this site. I hope it will guide many men in the future.
                      Finally, my writing outside of the site. Hopefully they become the next big series and makes me a ton of money. Heh.

                    4. Been there done that regarding kids and career. I’m at a new place in life. My goals at this point are:

                      – Moving somewhere warm, with a beach
                      – Opening a bar, on said beach
                      – Convincing hot young nubiles to have threesomes with me

                    5. I think that ideally, living life closely adhering to a theme from a Jimmy Buffet song is optimal.

                    6. bar name- “Cocktails & Dreams”…john stamos and the beach boys(whats left of them) as the house band…

                    7. where would you open up a joint is the question. I know a guy who gave up the rat race about 3 years ago, became a chartered boat capt in the Caribbean…then the hurricane blew through a few months ago…boat was fine, but most of the island was leveled

                    8. Eventually places like that recover though. I think the trick is not to go for broke and invest your entire nest egg into a shack on the beach with a beer tap. I don’t intend to throw all of my money into a dream like this and plan on holding plenty back in reserve. That said, I can still afford this dream if and when I choose to pursue it. Plus, you know, insurance and shit.

                    9. You teach your children and others. They pass that on. Then they pass it on. Hundreds of years later someone is still passing it on. And what I teach comes partially down from what was passed on from before

                    10. Yes. I’ve often thought of creating a Scouting group though I doubt I’d go through the BSA with all the SJW crap they’re catering to lately. Mentoring boys into young men is a great option.

      3. Disagree. You equate a legacy with name recognition. It doesn’t matter that I know nothing about all but one of my great-grandparents. Behaviors, values, personality traits, etc… that belonged to them still reside in me. If legacy equates to simple name recognition, name the guy who invented the hammer. Lost to history. And you miss my point – not everyone is smart enough to create something revolutionary. Most innovations are quickly lost to history or discarded once they become obsolete. Most of the contemporaries of hammer man were unremarkable in every way, but something they put here lives on in their ancestors. One day, hammers may become obsolete. Technology may advance to a state where we fashion a better method of joining materials. But so long as new children are born, bloodlines continue.

        1. Obviously it’s a lot harder to have your name remembered. That was my point. It’s a higher goal. The guy who invented the eglet won’t be remembered by name, but he left an enormous legacy.

          So, here’s my view, in descending order, of the most impressive legacies:

          1. Physical accomplishment + name recognition
          2. Physical accomplishment + no name recognition
          3. Reproduction

          I’m not denigrating anybody. 99.99% of all humans are in category 3. I’m just saying that 1 and 2 are a higher bar. Of course, it helps to be born rich.

      4. “That’s why the BEST way to leave your name on this earth is through your **accomplishments**. Even better if its something tangible that people can hold in their hands, or use in some way.”

        not so easy.
        even Tesla, and Newton – the 2 greatest thinker/achievers are mostly unknown today.
        And others are actively being eradicated.

        What can a regular schmo do?

        1. “look upon my works ye mighty and despair”

          Legacy is best accomplished through the LIVING. At the very least to live on in earthly memory.

          1. ” through the LIVING. At the very least to live on in earthly memory.”
            yea – good.
            my grandpa worked on a horse (shooting rabbits on farms), and then delivered bread via horse and cart.
            My daughter born in NYC had 12 years knowing him.
            I like to think if she lives to 100 she can recite personal anecdotes of a relative that lived in a complete different era (edit born 200 years ago) , to the space ships and such of her time. Or if we go back to sticks and stones – she has instructions.

          2. It’s a deep contradiction. Everything is ultimately forgotten. Time churns all into nothing, and neither your works nor your memory nor your loves will escape that nothingness.

            So why work towards a legacy? It’s an act of faith.

      5. So, basically what you’re saying is that unless one invents something or some process or is a celebrity or a politician with a bridge named after him their life/existence is meaningless? That’s never going to happen for 99.99 and 9/10% of people including you. The article means exactly the opposite of that, that EVERYONE (unless incapable medically) has a legacy. Money and fame ain’t everything, life ain’t a rap video.

        1. “So, basically what you’re saying is that unless one invents something or some process or is a celebrity or a politician with a bridge named after him their life/existence is meaningless?”

          That’s not what I wrote. Please read for comprehension.

  10. I was working third shift in a factory back in the late 80’s early 90’s, and going to college full time. A friend of mine, late 20’s early 30’s, not my best friend but a friend whose house I’d been to and whose children and wife I’d met and socialized with, was going home for the evening. He was a lab guy, name of Ron, and he worked in Quality Assurance. Nice guy, decent, hard working, a bit sarcastic and funny. I passed as he was going off shift (I had some more items to finish) and he mentioned that he was going home and was looking forward to a nice “dinner” (aka breakfast, since third shift ended at 7:30 a.m.). I wished him well and continued about my work. One hour later, a call came in; he was dead. Aneurysm. He went home, laid down on the couch for a minute, and the things inside his head decided to explode, killing him instantly.

    I remember seeing his two kids, both sons, around 3 to 5 years of age at the time, after he passed. It struck me then and there, that I needed to have kids. Powerfully even. Prior to that I was a take it or leave it guy and we didn’t really plan on having kids immediately, but something hit me hard saying “He’s dead, but part of him lives still”. I don’t think I thought the word “legacy” but the meaning of my thoughts was still in that camp. I told my wife that we needed to start trying to have kids that weekend, after the funeral.

    Something really powerful at work when you realize that you are utterly mortal. To live a life of self-contained pleasure without thought of others or the notion of the future, is to waste a life. We can construct vast frameworks justifying our myopia, but deep inside, we know the truth of the matter, even if we’ll never admit it. Our purpose, as living creatures in the universe, is to propagate and further our line, our species. Abandoning this instinct, this choice, is abandoning our soul and humanity. Those who cannot for biological/medical reasons are without fault, there is no choice to make for them.

    You may go on in life to have everything in life turn around on you, but your kids, your legacy, will move forward into the future that you’ll never see, and if you raised them right, their kids will do so as well.

    We’re all the product of choices made by individuals for millions of years, to leave a legacy and reproduce. Nobody is exempt from this. I honor my God, my family, my line, my heritage, my very individuality and being, by continuing this legacy.

    Great article Jak.

    1. a kid from the old neighborhood died of an aneurysm last year, only 37. played minor league ball for a few years, went to law school, became a JAG. well liked, well regarded. was engaged to be married too. You never know when your number is up…

      1. Indeed. Your day of doom is etched into fate. Not a thing you can do to alter it, neither to move it forward nor to stop its coming. Live life with that in mind. Live courageously and with passion.

        1. I would imagine being a JAG would require you to bounce around the country? Hard to have a serious relationship if so

          1. What does being a Judge Advocate General have to do with anything?

            Actually kind of don’t know what JAG means, except Judge Advocate General. Can you lend a brother a hand here, homie?

              1. Now that’s a JAG!!! I bet your friends will call bullshit when you claim to have blown a Jaguar though…

                  1. I hadn’t thought about it for ages, but now that you mention it, I had a coworker who did just that. Pulled the Jag engine / transmission and installed a Chevy 350. That still didn’t fix the electrical system though.

                    1. sweet! had the same contraption prowling the neighborhood of my yute, too! It was 350-mania back then, people putting them in everything!

                    2. Yep. Had a Jeep CJ 5 offered to me recently with a Chevy 350 in it and 3 on the floor. I bet it would pull wheelies, lol. But WRT to the Jag conversion; the Lucas electrical system was devised by demons in the bowels of hell to torment mortal man!

                1. She could be fairly cute if she didn’t insist on dressing like a man.

                  1. she posed for Maxim and FHM when men were allowed to be men. look those spreads up if youre bored, all woman in em

                  2. The female uniform actually includes a skirt. The Marines don’t play that gender equal shit just yet.

                    Also, this bitch is a Lt.Col., but she has exactly one sea service deployment ribbon. LOmotherfuckingL!

            1. well, he was getting married later in life, I assume being in the military when youre single isnt an easy. If he got married at 30, who knows, he may have had a kid or two, legacy and all…

              1. I am utterly out of the loop regarding what you’re talking about here man. Seriously. I’ve taken to not following Political Outrage Of The Day lately.

                1. lol, yeah I guess Im not being clear- this isnt a political post. he was judge advocate general, Ill stop typing now.

              2. Being a JAG isn’t a horrible life, you’re busy and may get deployed or see some rough cases. However, you’re not gonna get put on the frontlines and into the meatgrinder.
                And being a single officer in the military isn’t terrifically easy but isn’t the worst either. On one hand, 90% of the women you work with are totally off-limits (if you’re even into military girls). On the other, you’ll actually make real money unlike a junior enlisted who is practically minimum wage. Pros and cons.

                1. Not to be pedantic, but a Marine JAG got lit up and wounded in an ambush in Iraq in 2003. His name was LtCol Ewers, and I believe that he was the JAG for the entire 1st Marine Division. He lived, but I distinctly remember this story spreading throughout the division. We were all pumped that even the JAG was getting some!

        2. An old Korean War vet told me one time that, after you’ve been shot at enough times you learn that if one of those bullets has your name on it, it’s going to get you and there isn’t a damn thing you can do about it.

      2. College buddy of mine died of cancer at 35. Another college buddy came in and swooped up the widow, adopted his kids.

      3. A classmate of mine I knew from K-12 was driving home from vacation with his family and dropped over at the steering wheel because of an aneurysm. The car came to a stop and the wife and 4 kids were ok, but a shock none-the-less.

      1. I have a half million on my head, like 50k on my wife’s head. I guess it is supposed to hurt the family more if I kick the bucket. Another reason to keep your SMV up even if you’re married.

    2. I thought we were going to stop after having two children, but I got into genealogy and something about studying my family’s history made me want to have more children. And so here we are.

      1. The primal fear of death.

        Right before the soviets laid siege to Berlin in 45′, the reports of wanton sexual encounters by the locals was rampant. I read something similiar about the fall of Carthage.

          1. I was the same. Yes it will turn your life upside down for 2-3 weeks, but then you tow the kid with you. They are tougher than you think.

          2. You’ll be fine. Your life is about to take a deeper meaning and your personal qualms meaningless.

            Welcome to the club “daddio.”

        1. Haha, once he has teeth it is. As of the last ultrasound the kid was in like 92% of head size and 78% in overall size. I credit that to my wife’s healthy diet of game meat (and ridiculous health preparation for incubating).

      1. Your short attention span is not my problem, it’s yours. Learn to adult.

        1. My attention span is fine. Learn to adult yourself by expressing your thoughts in a concise manner.
          You rambling on and over explaining shit is not my problem. Clearly you have communication issues in your life.

  11. Where’s McGoo at? He should have already been here talking about breast feeding legacies by now.

  12. Another way to leave a legacy, in addition to children, not in place of, is to mentor youth. I am a youth minister at my church and to know that you make an impact on their lives and know they respect you and love you means the world to me.

        1. They got me working with the young men right now. It’s a fun calling, but there is this group of about 4-5 kids, about 12-13 years old that are dropped off by their parents who rarely come to church. The kids just hang out and cause trouble, disrupting the other kids and not participate. I’m not sure what to do about it. If I talk to the parents, the kids and the parents will probably stop coming. Even doing activities like basketball don’t interest them. They don’t want to go to camp outs. Annoying situation.

          1. That sucks. I;ve seen that sort of thing before, mainly when I was younger. Now we usually only have regular churchgoers attend the special functions. If you want to hang out with the youth, come to church.

            1. I’m about tempted to tell them in no uncertain terms to GTFO, let the chips fall where they may, and then rebuild with the remaining good kids. Behaving like that makes it less fun for the good kids who have their struggles but are at least trying.

              1. Yes, that is probably the best course of action. Back years ago when we were still home schooling we read up on the effects of moving troubled children into better schools in the hope they would benefit from the positive influence. The inverse turned out to be true. Drug use and teen pregnancy went up. Their negative and destructive world view propagated; the bad apples spread rot through the whole barrel.

                1. No less a personage than my own dad, bem senior, once said: You can take 6 Oxford English professors and lock them in a room with Eddie Murphy and in 2 weeks they’ll all come out talking like HIM.

          2. I know what that’s like….
            I used to barge into those classes just to mack on the girls. They told me ‘this isn’t a dating agency’ or something and booted me out.

            1. I told you two weeks ago that they were going to kick you out eventually.

    1. I did the Big Brother program for a kid from 12 to graduation. Basically, we hung out about every two weeks – eating burgers, wandering around the mall – standard teen age stuff. It was a great experience. I watched him grow into a pretty capable young man who took off for trade school.

  13. Hear, hear! Living for one’s own pleasure is indeed an empty life. For those of the Christian persuasion, I recommend a book by Dennis Rainey, Stepping Up. Although not a red pill focused book, it focuses on traits and principles that truly are red pill – God’s expectations of us as men. Building a legacy and becoming a patriarch included. Doing the hard things in life.

  14. “Oh, my gawwwd…it’s Mr Kersey!”
    That’s right. However, since this is the last time I call in to this site, you might as well read my comment properly before starting of with your sick trolling attempts about Haitians/Africans and AIDS.
    Today’s AKC article was pretty good about leaving a legacy…and also a good reminder for myself why I should not waste more time arguing with idiots here.
    I am a father of three children. It has always been my dream to have a loving, loving wife and many children. I married young. ( I was 24 and my wife three years younger than me.) I was red-pilled long before Roosh and Return of Kings came along, (nevermind AKC). Long before Facebook, Tinder and smartphones were invented.
    The state of women in the US and all of Europe was pretty back even in the early 2000s when I red-pilled. I realized that I needed to travel if I want to find a decent wife who could be a mother of my future children. I also realized that I loved Black ladies more than any other group of women – and much preferred African and Haitian women to the so-called Black women you find in the UK and the US. (Also remember – back in the early 2000s interracial dating was still a taboo in both the US, let alone in Europe.) AS a red-pilled, alpha-male and I saved up and used a research program in an African University ). The best decision I ever made. Three months later I was dating my future wife…a traditional, family-oriented, slim and feminine young lady from a decent family. 11 months later we were getting married. Fifteen years later we are still together, have three beautiful children. Our oldest son is in high school now, the most intelligent one in his class.
    This is my legacy. My family is the only thing that matters to me.I understand that this makes many malicious commenters jealous – but that’s not my fault. Start your own red-pilled journey and find yourself a decent wife. It is possible if you look in the right place. There are no set rules, follow your common sense and instinct. Try not to spend much time on “Manosphere” sites…most of them started genuine but they got sidetracked. Many of them turned into hangout for stupid White Trashionalist…other will keep you down with their toxic negativity and pessimism.
    To a few, decent non-racist AKC readers: I wish you all the best. Particularly AutomaticSlim and W Pabst – the two guys despite their difficulties seem to be honest about themselves and genuine. Double cheeseburger may fit into this category but sadly he keeps a bad company.
    Most of the rest of the commenters add nothing to the discussion other than casual racism and utter gibberish which they see as “humor” – notably Lolknee, G.o Jefferson, As. Thales, bem and many others. You cannot be an alpha male if you spend your whole life online, commenting gibberish. No amount of aids jokes will make that go away.
    I would not even comment on hardcore racist lunatics such as “UnreconstructedConfederate” , Native Balkanian or Blue-Eyed Devil. etc
    As for Lattacku – you claim to be an Africa-American yet you still hang around here after all racial slurs and racist jokes. You might not be an African-American at all.
    To you Jak: you are not the best example of editor’s ethics since you have actively condoned the harassment of a non-racist commneter and encouraged racist comments. Yes, Disqus does not need my reports to shut your blog dowwn. They might do it nevertheless, since the comments are monitored by them, believe it or not. You challenged me for a fistfight, but failed to realized the old rules: according the old rules I should be able to name the time and location. The good news for you: I am not going to meet you. I have more important thing to do than settling “scores” with some childish idiots. I would only fight someone in the course of protecting my family. (Look at the bright side: I saved you from the embarassment since you couldn’t afford the ticket to the UK anyway.)

    To the few sensible and non-racist readers/commenters: happy Holidays. All the Best
    Mr Kersey.

    Edit: to JumpnJive…you accused me of having no sense of humor.
    have you heard the result of the latest surveys ?According to them 85% of man is Mississippi have at least one of their prayers answered: that when their sisters got their period.
    Now you know how offensive jokes feel. Goodbye.

    1. You’ve “last timed” quite a bit kid.

      Hey, how are you doing anyway? How is your white blood cell count?

        1. You racist condoner!

          Dude doesn’t even bother reading the site, but that’s ok, his evaluation of the content comes prepackaged with many invalid assumptions!

    2. Archiving for posterity:

      “Oh, my gawwwd…it’s Mr Kersey!”
      That’s
      right. However, since this is the last time I call in to this site, you
      might as well read my comment properly before starting of with your
      sick trolling attempts about Haitians/Africans and AIDS.
      Today’s AKC
      article was pretty good about leaving a legacy…and also a good
      reminder for myself why I should not waste more time arguing with idiots
      here.
      I am a father of three children. It has always been my dream
      to have a loving, loving wife and many children. I married young. ( I
      was 24 and my wife three years younger than me.) I was red-pilled long
      before Roosh and Return of Kings came along, (nevermind AKC). Long
      before Facebook, Tinder and smartphones were invented.
      The state of
      women in the US and all of Europe was pretty back even in the early
      2000s when I red-pilled. I realized that I needed to travel if I want to
      find a decent wife who could be a mother of my future children. I also
      realized that I loved Black ladies more than any other group of women –
      and much preferred African and Haitian women to the so-called Black omen
      you find in the UK and the US. (Also remember – back in the early
      2000s interracial dating was still a taboo in both the US, let alone in
      Europe.) AS a red-pilled, alpha-male and I saved up and used a research
      program in an African University ). The best decision I ever made. Three
      months later I was dating my future wife…a traditional,
      family-oriented, slim and feminine young lady from a decent family. 11
      months later we were getting married. Fifteen years later we are still
      together, have three beautiful children. Our oldest son is in high
      school now, the most intelligent one in his class.
      This is my legacy.
      My family is the only thing that matters to me.I understand that this
      makes many malicious commenters jealous – but that’s not my fault. Start
      your own red-pilled journey and find yourself a decent wife. It is
      possible if you look in the right place. There are no set rules, follow
      your common sense and instinct. Try not to spend much time on
      “Manosphere” sites…most of them started genuine but they got
      sidetracked. Many of them turned into hangout for stupid White
      Trashionalist…other will keep you down with their toxic negativity and
      pessimism.
      To a few, decent non-racist AKC readers: I wish you all
      the best. Particularly AutomaticSlim and W Pabst – the two guys despite
      their difficulties seem to be honest about themselves and genuine.
      Double cheeseburger may fit into this category but sadly he keeps a bad
      company.
      Most of the rest of the commenters add nothing to the
      discussion other than casual racism and utter gibberish which they see
      as “humor” – notably Lolknee, G.o Jefferson, As. Thales, bem and many
      others. You cannot be an alpha male if you spend your whole life online,
      commenting gibberish. No amount of aids jokes will make that go away.
      I
      would not even comment on hardcore racist lunatics such as
      “UnreconstructedConfederate” , Native Balkanian or Blue-Eyed Devil. etc
      As
      for Lattacku – you claim to be an Africa-American yet you still hang
      around here after all racial slurs and racist jokes. You might not be an
      African-American at all.
      To you Jak: you are not the best example of
      editor’s ethics since you have actively condoned the harassment of a
      non-racist commneter and encouraged racist comments. Yes, Disqus does
      not need my reports to shut your blog dowwn. They might do it
      nevertheless, since the comments are monitored by them, believe it or
      not. You challenged me for a fistfight, but failed to realized the old
      rules: according the old rules I should be able to name the time and
      location. The good news for you: I am not going to meet you. I have more
      important thing to do than settling “scores” with some childish idiots.
      I would only fight someone in the course of protecting my family. (Look
      at the bright side: I saved you from the embarassment since you
      couldn’t afford the ticket to the UK anyway.)

      To the few sensible and non-racist readers/commenters: happy Holidays. All the Best
      Mr Kersey.

          1. Only if you’re a coward who cannot stand behind his words.

            Which history has demonstrated, you are.

            Or the HIV has gotten to you. I don’t know. Either or.

            1. Still jeaoulous about my family life? Worry not, I have better things to do than arguing with me.
              However, you with your 43000+ comments…you have no life outside this website.
              No amount of aids “jokes” will make that go away, and you know it.

              1. Still jeaoulous about my family life? Worry not, I have better things to do than arguing with me.
                However, you with your 43000+ comments…you have no life outside this website.
                No amount of aids “jokes” will make that go away, and you know it.

                Hey, at least I’m not stalking people on websites trying to infect them with digital AIDS. So I have that going for me.

              2. Were you this crazy before the AIDS? Did you lose your sense of humor after you contracted the HIV or were you born without one?

                  1. That’s a pretty insensitive remark to make around a man who has AIDS, donchathink?

      1. Dear Kersey, since you deleted your account in predictable fashion after shitting all over the comments section, allow me a rebuttal.

        “However, since this is the last time I call in to this site,”

        Doubtful. AIDS never goes away.

        “I also realized that I loved Black ladies more than any other group of women and much preferred African and Haitian women to the so-called Black omen you find in the UK and the US”

        Sounds awfully racist to me. Much more racist than anything the regular commenters here have ever said.

        “To you Jak: you are not the best example of editor’s ethics since you have actively condoned the harassment of a
        non-racist commneter and encouraged racist comments.”

        I believe in free speech, something a lot of you people across the pond don’t appreciate or understand. Also, still waiting for a screenshot of when I encouraged racist comments. Slander much?

        “You challenged me for a fistfight, but failed to realized the old
        rules: according the old rules I should be able to name the time and
        location.”

        Wrong. I told you if you ever wanted to challenge me, since you like to bring up fighting my readership so often, I wouldn’t refuse. I even offered to videotape the match and 90% of the proceeds would go to the victor’s charity of choice. Think of the children, man!

        “To the few sensible and non-racist readers/commenters:”

        Read – all the commenters.

        “happy Holidays”
        It’s ‘Merry Christmas’ around here, you PC basturd.

            1. I didn’t mention Pabst, because that one that made sense considering the entire context. You see, Kersey is pretty much insane. Therefore, we can expect the insane.

    3. You do realize that it’s mainly in jest and we’re not truly malicious here? Congrats on your wife and children. I personally do not agree with crossing race lines but I’m happy for you.

      I think you’ve caught grief because of your tendency to lash out at anyone that pokes fun at you as racist and your lack of humor. We actually don’t care what color your wife is.

      Again, best of luck and Merry Christmas

      1. Yep, for someone who’s been red-pilled for so long, he seems unable to grasp the concept of Agreeing and Amplifying to overcome the AIDS jokes. Hell, even an Agree and Deflect approach would be more effective than what he does now.

    4. […] my future wife…a traditional, family-oriented, slim and feminine young lady from a decent family. […]Fifteen years later we are still together, have three beautiful children. […] My family is the only thing that matters to me.

      See, this is the kind of stuff that makes you welcome here.

      The parts where you interpret everything as racism is the kind of stuff that makes people want to provoke you. You need to realize there actually is no racism being expressed.

      I married outside of my race, too, if it matters to you.

        1. You’re lucky there are no French stereotypes and nothing you can accuse the French of doing sub-par.

      1. “I married outside of my race, too, if it matters to you.”
        Yet, you never objected to your pals’ racism…

        1. Honest question: Why are you so thin skinned on this? I get slammed (by you before as well) about being from Mississippi but I just roll with it. NO.ONE.CARES.WHAT.RACE.YOUR.WIFE.IS.

          The important thing is that you have embraced family life and would actually line up with ideals expressed her, if you would only open your eyes a little. Quit viewing everything through the prism of race. It makes you look like you feel guilty about it

        2. “I married outside of my race, too, if it matters to you.”
          Yet, you never objected to your pals’ racism…

          Hey, by the way, fuck you, you thin skinned, humorless simpleton. You see racial comments when people say “Good morning”. Grow a pair.

          Thought I’d get that out there directly instead of beating around the bush about it. Heh.

          1. That’s your opinion. Thats is exactly what it is: an opinion. Not a fact.
            Edit: now, why don’t you log-off and take a ride in your “90% white” hickie town and game your “Viking princesses” (read: nasty white Midwestern landwhales.) You have no life outside of this side. And you know it.

            1. That’s your opinion. Thats is exactly what it is: an opinion. Not a fact.

              Nope, fact. This is a non-racialist site. It talks about family life and being good fathers and husbands.

              But this has been explained to you before. Unfortunately any words other than “I agree” you interpret as racism.

              So anyway, still curious about your white blood cell count (Note: I’m not asking about Aryan blood cells. Just an fyi).

                1. Worry about your own blood cells, cupcake.

                  That bad, huh? So sorry to hear that. I’ll look for your spot on the blanket. I promise.

        3. There is nothing to object to!

          I keep falling for it. You make a mostly good post, and I try to give you a lead to bring you on board, but I just can’t seem to get through to you.

    5. That reminds me. How’s your site dedicated to interracial marriage coming along? Still on track to getting it up soon?

      1. The site will start in January…after the festive season end.
        I won’t be advertising it here, for obvious reason. Oh, yes…and comments will be disabled or moderated in advance. You can keep all your troll.

                1. Is “mudshark” racist? Like really racist? I don’t mean like “Pocahontas” racist but like n-word racist.

                    1. No, that fake indian senator whore said Trump calling her “Pocahontas” was racist, even though its really just funny.

        1. Nah, man. I’m happy for you. I wrote a post a while back encouraging all men to write regardless whether it’ll be posted online or kept privately.

        2. The site will start in January…after the festive season end.
          I won’t be advertising it here, for obvious reason. Oh, yes…and comments
          will be disabled or moderated in advance. You can keep all your troll.

          1. Because mixed-raced couples with mixed race children face difficulties that same race couples don’t. It’s that simple.
            There is a growing number of us. We need a forum where we can discuss things without being confronted by racist trolls..

            1. All kidding aside, I legitimately feel sorry for your children. Being raised by a man without a sense of humor must be really tough.

            2. If I wanted to tell Kersey the following:

              You could discuss these things with us. Some of us here are in mixed marriages with mixed race children. There are no racist trolls around here.

              What do you guys think the best method of doing so would be?

                1. No, I’m not. I am however challenging your perception, and you are unwilling to engage in any introspection.

            3. Because mixed-raced couples with mixed race children face difficulties that same race couples don’t. It’s that simple. There is a growing number of us. We need a forum where we can discuss things without being confronted by racist trolls..who tease me about my HIV

            4. Ill give you that, but its incumbent upon you to make sure they dont fall prey to the global marxism being pushed in all western schools- they will never be white enough, so they will have to prove how much they arent white- dont let that happen, dont let them be useful idiots

      2. I suspect that once you are in the advanced stages of AIDS “getting it up” is probably the last thing on your mind. 😂

    6. I actually started off reading this foolishness with an open mind, I should have known better. You’re still a moron and you’ve already promised before to go away so, don’t go away mad just, go away.
      PS- if you came here and at least attempted to not be a thin skinned moron nobody would bother you but, as it is FO.

        1. Your comment is the same as the Confederacy is: non-sensical and irrelevant.

            1. I am deleting the comments soon: hurry up if you want tot save them…because I have AIDS

                1. Oh, I know. Thing is, last time he was here I missed all of the comments, so I’m doing a solid for our absentee brothers here.

                2. Nope. I am bailing in about 30 minutes. I am deleting my account and not going to come back.
                  I know, for these guys, every new commenter will be just “kersey in disguise”.

                    1. There aren’t going to be any more “kersey sightings”, I am afraid I’m dying of AIDS.

                      Never fear, every year we’ll light a votive candle in your memory. Stay strong man. Stay strong.

                  1. Nope. I am bailing in about 30 minutes. I am deleting my account and not going to come back. I know, for these guys, every new commenter will be just “kersey in disguise”. You will be able to tell it’s not me though, because the posts won’t have HIV in them.

                    Given your low white blood cell count I am amazed that you have the strength to type even these posts.

    7. Hey, serious question. Have you ever been a part of a musical group? Like in high school or college or anything?

      Also curious, have you ever had major surgery in a hospital?

            1. Or cannot afford a ticket to Europe..
              or don’t even have a passport.
              or don’t have AIDS
              etc.etc.

          1. Do you consider yourself a “hardcore racist lunatic”? I have seen very little to suggest you are hardcore, racist, or lunaticy.

            1. And I don’t think I’ve ever “encouraged” my readers to make racist comments. If someone’s got a screenshot, help me out here.

              1. Hey, I’m safe. I have conclusively proved that I am not racist. That shit will hold up in a court of law.

              2. I’ve made it this far and even JJBird hasn’t called me a racist so I think I’m doing well.

                  1. Yeah, but she made me promise never to tell you….

                    …Oh, wait…

                    1. The hard part is getting the bandsaw placed just right that you make a straight cut down the middle of her, leaving both halves equally proportioned.

            2. I’m not sure, I used to watch hardcore porn, does that count? Lunatic?, probably…

        1. You would need a major surgery if you ever come near me…and HIV medication

          They are serious questions.

          Help me out here man.

          1. Damn. I was curious if he was brought out of the hospital on a wheel chair as is standard practice.

            This information is vital, I need to determine if he has band aids, roll aids, or both!

            1. They’re renaming themselves. He’ll be shooting a WalMart Inc., if he does it after January.

        1. What he said ….. I was going to put one of those cool arrow thingys pointing down but there ain’t one.

    8. Dammit I wish you posted here like an hour ago, I got to go to a meeting. GOJ, good work on copying his comments.

        1. Think it was Lou Skunt who wanted them. He’s going to be so disappointed, but hey, I told him to get me his credit card and social security numbers and I’d hook him up! This is on him.

            1. He called some of us out personally. Apparently, I’m a racist enabler who encourages my readers to make racist comments.
              And according to him, you should be highly offended by all the racist activity going on here, seeing as you’re a black guy (his words, not mine).

            2. I archived *literally* (Hitler) every one of his comments. Enjoy!

                1. No, I blockquoted them into my posts, so they remain. I just refrehsed and they are there, sparkly new and with that fresh AIDS smell to them.

                    1. I just looked at every one. Once you “blockquote” stuff sticks, it’s not linked to the original posts.

                1. Dude, right here on the thread. I blockquoted him, every post.

                1. From Kersey’s original post:

                  “As for Lattacku – you claim to be an Africa-American yet you still hang around here after all racial slurs and racist jokes. You might not be an African-American at all.”

            3. Make sure to use the parallax adjustment on your scope the next time.

  15. My father passed away recently, which has led to me inheriting property that he owned. Going through things at these houses has introduced me to photos and heirlooms from relatives I barley remember and some I’ve never met. Family, legacy, heritage, stuff like that has never meant anything to me until his passing. My family life growing up was well beyond dysfunctional, which fucked me up for a large part of my life. My father was a flawed man like anyone else, I’m not going to try to paint him as anything special. But, through his hard work & intelligence he left a fortune to me. Me, my kids, & possibly their kids are set for any unexpected problems that may arise. In a way he left me piece of mind from the need to be a wage slave, & time to be there for my daughter while she’s growing up.

    When it comes to leaving a legacy I don’t think we all have the ability to change the world & be remembered in a grandiose way. My father left his legacy on me & his friends by being someone that was always there to lend a helping hand when needed, & always giving much more than he received to people that he cared about. It might not get his named etched in the history books, but I will make sure that his name is remembered & shared with my daughter and anyone else that benefits from what he has left behind.

      1. Hey, no one is allowed to talk about that. It was only the largest mass shooting in US history. So we can’t have any news reporting on it or any follow up on all of the weird things that happened with it.

          1. I wouldn’t know. It’s never reported in the news. It’s almost creepy how little the news talks about anything having to do with the shooting.

              1. Were the weapons illegal? I thought they were all legally purchased. Would be really nice if some journalist did a story about it so we would know… but I guess they are too busy fainting over every Trump tweet.

        1. I’m the opposite of conspiratorially minded, and the silence on this is utterly deafening. Now even I am wondering “WTF?”

        2. That is an eerie point. I assume just beneath the thin media surface, some uncomfortable facts about a disgruntled democrat will arrive. Cannot have that. Goes against the narrative.

    1. It’s wrong, but not in the way that most are arguing against it. Forney simply has too much faith that the free market will keep the ISPs from not jumping into the censorship game alongside the rest of the Internet infrastructure. What is needed is a wholesale law (not a stupid FCC regulation) limiting the ability of private Internet infrastructure providers (ISPs, DNS registrars, etc) to ban people solely on their speech content.

      1. The thing is, the government is not going to make it better. Whatever they do, they are going to end up making it worse. The government is even easier for corporations to manipulate than the market. Bog corporations push for government intervention into things like this because they know they can get the government to write the rules to favor them.

        1. Instead of corporate income tax, they need to tax on the corporations share of the market. Disney owns like 40 percent of the televised media market, they should be taxed at 40%, that would give the smaller business a leg up, and reduce the desire of large corporations to conglomerate.

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