Leaving a Legacy

“The true meaning of life is to plant trees, under whose shade you do not expect to sit.”

-Nelson Henderson

Today I saw a short clip from a well-known PUA within the Red Pill community lamenting what his life has thus amounted to.  As I watched the short clip, only 26 seconds long, I could see the regret across his face like a mask.  Within this short clip, he utters a truth that cuts to the very core of what has driven men all throughout history.  

I don’t have kids.  I don’t have a family. Wow, I have internet fame.  I have a way to make a video and a few thousand people are going to watch it and that’s it.  It’s a waste.

In short, a legacy.

Most men strive to leave some kind of legacy when they finally shrug off their earthly shackles and their legacy can take on many forms.  To some this means inventing or discovering something that will change the world.  For others, it is giving of himself to help his fellow man.

However, for most men, the most base instinct regarding their legacy involves creating a family.  Having children to surpass himself is the oldest form of legacy building known to man.  Before kingdoms, before paintings and busts, before historical texts, there was the desire to have a wife and children.  So deep is this desire to create something that will survive himself is, he will lay down his own life in order to protect his kids.

This gives a man purpose and vision.  With this purpose burning inside him, he will strive to better himself.  That isn’t to say that the only reason that a man should improve himself is because of his family, but it adds a deeper level to his commitment.  It’s a deeper fire that burns quietly in our soul ready to turn into an inferno at a moment’s notice.

As I train in martial arts, I routinely imagine defending myself and defending my family.  When I imagine defending myself, a few emotions come to the surface: fear, apprehension, aggression.  Will I be able to fend off my adversary?

But when I visualize someone attacking my family, I only feel white hot rage – the desire to utterly destroy.

My family is my precious legacy, what I will leave behind me when I am gone.  It’s a deep-seeded instinct to protect, provide, and guide them until it is time for them to take the reins.

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A man without a legacy will lie on his deathbed wishing he had some comforting thought as he takes his last breaths.  Whether it’s knowing he left the world a better place or surrounded by his sons and daughters, he needs to know his life meant something (nihilists excluded).

This is my call to arms for the men out there.  What legacy are you going to leave?  Take some time to reflect on this, but don’t take too long.  Begin taking steps to building your legacy, whatever that may be.  You don’t want to be hitting the mid-point of your life before realizing everything you’ve done thus far is for naught.

For those of you already at this point, it’s not too late, but you will have to stomp the gas to the floorboard.  The black pill is a life that not many men can truly live with and be happy with the results.  Eventually, it will catch up with them and they will realize their folly.

Start young.

Work hard.

Be diligent.

Live with purpose.

Author: Jak

Jak, married and father of three, seeks to help the Red-Pill Community take its next step past the petty cynicism and ineffectual anger. While he recognizes that men are significantly handicapped by the modern legal system and culture, he doesn’t accept that traditional marriage is untenable in today’s social climate.

Rather, men must be willing to adapt to this new world by implementing new tactics and approaches to maintaining a balance of power. Jak is here to provide you with these lessons.

  • Marius Aetius Lucullus

    this is a great topic Jak, and i think it is great you are touching on it here (hopefully you can dig down the rabbit hole on this topic more) as someone who discovered the RP only in last few years (initially Roosh – then ROK, of course) i enjoyed reading articles and probably more so the comments from the fellas.
    learning how guys interacted with women & how women really are, not portrayed, was a real eye opener for me, to say i was shocked was an understatement.
    at 34 now, single with no prospect of female company in my immediate future, this very thing crosses my mind daily.
    i read what Slim & Knee say in their honest posts (tip of the hat there Slim & Knee) and also the other end of the spectrum GOJ & Jim (tip to GOJ & Jim also) and its great to get 2 different sides of “man” or male nature,.
    i cant for the life of me get Pink Floyd’s “Time” out of my head or the whole DSOTM really, the Roger Waters lyric sung by Rick Wright says it perfectly (for my situation at least)

    “lying supine in the sunshine, staying home to watch the rain, you are young and life is long & there is time to kill today, but then one day you find 10 years have got behind you, no one told you when to run you missed the starting gun”

    good topic again Jak.

    • UWOTM8

      Very poignant. I felt the same way about the articles and comments. There’s so much disillusionment, but also a freedom associated with not having the blinding fog of society’s lies in your face.

    • Murdoc34

      at 34 now, single with no prospect of female company in my immediate future, this very thing crosses my mind daily.

      It took me until age 34 to become comfortable enough (financially, emotionally, professionally, among others) to find a wife and start a family.

      I’m going to put this as plainly as possible: Don’t dwell on it, DO it.

      • Sir Lee

        yep.
        spray and pray – sooner the better

        • Jim Johnson

          I guess you could call a bunch of random single mothers living on the dole a legacy.

          • bem

            see ‘landfill’ discussion above.

          • Sir Lee

            preferably with one wife in a family unit.
            but, I wonder if the guy with 8 kids from several mommas is not winning??

            • Jim Johnson

              as far as pure genetics, I suppose it is winning, but what goes into a a kid is far more. 20 years of packing knowledge in their brain is the work.

      • Jak

        If I actually waited until I was “ready,” I’d probably still be childless. You just got to hold your breath and jump in. The younger the better. I had my first child when I was 26 or 27 and twins about a year after that. If I had them just now, I know it’d be a lot tougher on me. Have kids when you’re young and still have boundless energy.

        • Murdoc34

          Yes, yes, thank you for the reminder. My kid isn’t reminding me enough, I still have enough residual energy to drag my carcass out of bed each morning.

          No, seriously, this is an excellent point, and one that has crossed my mind. It would have been physically easier doing this decade or so earlier. Mentally for me, not so much. To the gentleman that is 34, it’s not too late, but you don’t want to let this go much longer.

        • I was 23 for my first. Have ’em young and often.

      • Marius Aetius Lucullus

        cheers Porcer

    • Jak

      “(Hopefully you can dig down the rabbit hole on this topic more)”

      That can be arranged. Any particular aspect specifically you have in mind?

      • Marius Aetius Lucullus

        well ok, as i mentioned some guys are doing the RP/mgtow/manosphere thing and building ‘the man’ (job,house,money,possessions,frame body & mind etc) and without any real way to leave an impact or ‘pass the torch’ if you will.
        so while its all good doing build ‘the man’ thing my ultimate question is why bother if there is no son/daughter(s) to pass this knowledge/mentality on to, i spent alot of time with my grandparents when i was a boy and i was instilled with the ‘work ethic’ of their generation & not to just give up, so for the life of me i cant just become a drunk or druggie and say f*ck it i quit! and i detest the whole mgtow label, because as so many have said they are just butt hurt because no women want them due to their foul attitudes so they hate on females & scream from the rooftops that “they dont need no woman” (feminist anyone?)
        so at 34 (mainly single years) working in a trade industry i have got a nice collectible rare car, nice guitars & an enviable scotch whisky collection and have also just bought my first house, so what do i do with them, who do i leave them to?
        i also have the opportunity in the coming years to buy into the business where i am and become an owner.
        but the flip side to that is, why get all that stress of being an owner if there is no family to benefit from the hard work put in?

        sorry about the rant Jak, you may have to pick through and maybe grab certain points.
        – possessions (yes i know material possessions dont make the man, but god damn, good sh*t is getting so expensive now days)
        – property
        – wealth
        – business/trades/work ethic
        – experience

        • Jak

          Good launch pad to start from. I’ll do some thinking and see about writing an article on it.

    • AutomaticSlim

      Tipping the hat right back at you MAL!
      You’re a young guy…wish I could go back to 34 and get 17 years back.
      And from your posts you absolutely seem to have your mind in the right place. You’ll probably get a great girl sooner than you think. Take care!

      PS. And remember what I said a few weeks ago about Russian 9s!

      • Marius Aetius Lucullus

        ha! cheers mate

  • UWOTM8

    A very chilling and honest article. Thank you and the rest of the RP community for continuing to funnel uncomfortable truths into to the lives of guys like me who were raised without ever thinking of these things.
    For me, personally, this holds new meaning. I’m doggedly pursuing self-improvement both personally and in my career. It began to worry me recently how I would be remembered and how I would spend my youth. Indeed, it is far more productive to live with purpose.

    • I remember reading about Julius Caesar coming across a statue of Alexander the Great in Spain. This was a man who had subdued Gaul and was a Consul of Rome. But he was driven by the urge to do more.

      In the end, though, even he was driven to leave a biological legacy, that;s why he adopted Octavian, to continue his line.

  • Great stuff here. Kinda interesting but I feel this red pill journey is marked by moments of ephipany. You realize the nature of male/female interaction, you then improve yourself, then what? You carve yourself a legacy. I awoke this very morning thinking about how I can do more, be more, and give more. A man cheats death by having his name and his blood go on under the banner he created.

  • Sir Lee

    Great post – and maybe the only thing that matters.
    Have been talking/discussing this issue often last couple of years.
    LTR was pressuring me for some time to “merge our lives” and have kids — I stalled (for 6 years) and she is gone. Dodged a bullet in many ways – but feel I should disregard the potential negatives and just have kids…
    I have one kid and is wonderful – just feel more is better.
    Walking your daughter to school, watching her excel in sports,etc – is awesome – catching the stares and glares of business women (picking up dogshit) priceless.
    I have a good life on paper – but something is missing.
    I had a very good life in 20s and 30s – while high-school friends worked on family and business.
    Now they are retiring with grand-kids – and I’m playing catch-up.
    there is still time – and will be having 2 weeks with extended family – and then 2 weeks single male fun…over xmas.

    My grandpa died recently with 2 kids, 6 grandkids, 8 greatgrandkids, and 3 great-great grandkids…
    better than dying alone with cats and long forgotten pickup experiences…

    • I look at my maternal grandparents. They had two daughters, 5 grandchildren, 5 great grands (and counting). My in-laws had 2 girls, now 7 grands and then when they start having kids….

      I have three and am probably done. I like being young but as I age I will take comfort in seeing my children grow and marry and begin their own journeys.

      Thanks for the reminder, Jak, that life is good even if we don;t have all of the material things. Having less money and a wonderful family beats the heck out of being single and rich (no offence WB)

  • UnreconstructedConfederate

    You mean all those homemade porn videos I uploaded on the interwebs don’t count as a legacy?…dammit.

    • Stoic Nihilist

      Someone feature this man’s comment. He won the comments section today.

  • UnreconstructedConfederate

    On a serious note though, I know several childless people who are getting up there and are beginning to have regrets for not having kids. When I was younger I didn’t give that sort thing much thought but, now it seems that most of the time that should be our sole mission in life, to have some kids that have been “raised right”.

    • Thefourhorstmann

      I never understood people who would get married and then choose not to have kids.

      • UnreconstructedConfederate

        Me either, I mean, what’s the point.

        • Thefourhorstmann

          Had one guy tell me that his wife was his best friend and he didnt want a kid to come between that. I told him that was the gayest shit i ever heard.

          • UnreconstructedConfederate

            I’ve never been able to grasp the “my wife is my best friend thing”, most men already had friends before they got married. They weren’t looking for another friend they were looking for a wife. There is a difference.

            • Jim Johnson

              Virtue signalling, pure and simple. It is a way of telling yourself that you are virtuous because you let your wife block all your friends out of your life.

              • UnreconstructedConfederate

                Outstanding explanation,Jim.

              • cheeseburgercheeseburger

                I never thought about it that way…explains alot for me and some friendships that have fallen by the wayside

                • Jim Johnson

                  Try putting a card game together with some married friends you haven’t seen in a few years and you will know what I’m talking about.

                  “Sorry, I can’t. Too busy, I have to XXXX that weekend. Maybe some other time” Then you drive by and see the ominous glow of the TV.

                  • cheeseburgercheeseburger

                    I totally get that things change post-kids, but neither guys had any(one married a woman who he knew would have trouble getting prego, still married damaged goods anyway. she divorced him)

                    • Jim Johnson

                      Kids do make a challenge, but nothing $50 to a babysitter won’t handle. As soon as the oldest turned 12, we started going out regularly. For me, the bottleneck is finding guys that are ready, willing and able to go out and break stuff. For me, it is tougher than back in my dating days. Back in elementary school, I never would have believed it would be possible that hanging out with the guys would be tougher to coordinate.

              • Ainigmaris Thales

                Much like the “partnership” marriage thing, calling your wife your “best friend” is a perversion of what a true “best friend” really is.

                • bem

                  YOU’re my Best Friend.

                  • Ainigmaris Thales

                    I’m not marrying you, fag.

                    • bem

                      I can wait….

            • John Galt

              “I’ve never been able to grasp the “my wife is my best friend thing..”

              Oh hell no. The rare occassion I heard that the guy would end up divorced later.

              • Jim Johnson

                Doesn’t end well if she doesn’t let you hang out with the guys at all.

                • John Galt

                  We all know guys in that situation. I am trying to arrange a poker game with a friend (from Spain) now and even my wife said “he’ll never make it out the door” (yeah, ist that obvious).

                  • Jim Johnson

                    I have fought with this since long before I married. What gets me is how much time is wasted with electronics and then they can’t find the time. It is rather disheartening.

                    • John Galt

                      I have a friend here in the area I have know for 20 years (we actually met at college) and every quarter he sends a text or email about getting together for a beer. My reply is always “Yes. Name the day and we’ll make it happen!” Never any follow up. I used to name places and times, but he always had to check his “calendar.”

                      One time we tried to get together for a beer it took 2 years to actually do it. I wrote him off awhile ago, but leave the door open if he ever finds his balls.

                    • Jim Johnson

                      I understand if it is getting different priorities, but watching my (beta) dad try to hook up with one of his old high school friends, I don’t think it is. Every now and then, he would get a phone call and they would plan something. Then, there were some closed door conversations with my mom, she would cry, and then he would cancel. Eventually, those phone calls stopped.

                    • My wife knows if she tells me to do something I will most likely do the opposite. Just because. And don’t try the tears. Just makes me mad

                    • Jim Johnson

                      she was so manipulative. When I heard the phrase, “Don’t you feel guilty for X?” I came to know the cue.

                    • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

                      Hey! I met you for a beer and it only took asking once!

                    • John Galt

                      And he is from Columbus which I find hard to believe sometimes.

                      Next beer we have together will be under better circumstances. I enjoyed the chat, but was distracted.

        • Jak

          There is none. The only point of marriage is to create a stable environment for raising kids. If you don’t want kids, you have no business getting married.
          Plus, why would you set yourself up for getting divorce raped with some broad when you aren’t even interested in fulfilling the function of marriage in the first place?

          • UnreconstructedConfederate

            Getting divorce raped and not even having kids would be about as bad as it could get.

          • jammyjaybird

            Five hundred years ago, marriage was a luxury afforded to the upper classes so that they could keep peace between warring principalities. Children didn’t even enter into the equation.

            Read the book Marriage, A History, by Stephanie Koontz. But only if you are ready to keep an open mind.

            • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

              Husband and wife are concepts that are not linked only to aristocracy and have existed in one form or another since we’ve had language as a species.

              • jammyjaybird

                Errr… for the select few. The rest just rutted around. No point in arguing since no records of anything were kept. Check out that book though.

                • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

                  Nope. Church’s recorded marriages for a long while. If you’re of English descent you can consult Church records going back to the 1500’s. Turns out, normal people became husband and wife all the time.

                  • bem

                    “normal people became husband and wife all the time.”

                    As well as a fuk-ton of ABnormal people….

                  • Thank you. Tracing your genealogy you see the marriage records in Jolly Ol’ for princes and paupers alike. This attempt to paint marriage as a recent invention is ludicrous. Maybe in the 800s they didn;t go to the courthouse but there would be a ceremony and all would understand this couple were starting a family.

                    • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

                      It’s a construct of some moderns to deny any traditions and undercut them. It makes sense, with no traditions or institutions left, a tabula raza is created upon which to build a new socialist utopia.

                      The actual modern “government marriage” is new, but marriage has existed in every society since time immemorial. Or at least the ones that survived beyond two generations anyway.

                    • Murdoc34

                      What we do know is wedding ceremonies were way more dangerous way back then.

                    • Obligatory upvote

      • Jim Johnson

        Yup, why subject yourself to all the social rules in marriage without the benefit?

        • Boothe

          Believe it or not, some people do it for the tax advantage. I even saw couples in the military get married so they could draw quarters allowance and live off base. Outright “contract marriages” were prohibited, but most of these marriages of convenience were dissolved amicably once the partners’ enlistments were up.

          • Jim Johnson

            The craziest I know of is at BYU (Mormon College). They have a rule there that if you are fornicating, you are subject to expulsion. Every now and then, some couples will drive across to Nevada, elope, have sex for a week, then divorce. Even if that isn’t technically committing fornication, the Church expels them anyway, making a mockery of marriage like that is worse than having sex outside marriage.

          • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

            That’s shrewd for taxes, but nobody can beat the amazing feat for tax advantages that Hotblack Desiato has discovered and implemented!

            • Boothe

              Even Pink Floyd couldn’t pull off being dead for a year…

              • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

                I was going for Obscure Reference Of The Thread, but you called me on it, assuming you didn’t need to Google the name of course.

                • Boothe

                  Oh I had to double check my Hitchhiker’s Guide, but you’re cross posting with a guy who subscribed to Heavy Metal magazine before the Internet was a gleam in Algore’s eye… I even had a pirated copy of Heavy Metal the movie on VHS. I’m pretty sure you grok all that. 😉

                  • bem

                    “Heavy Metal the movie on VHS”………!

                  • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

                    I had an advantage here, I am re-reading the 5 book trilogy and the other night came across Hotblack Desiato, at the Restaurant At The End Of The Universe.

                    Adam’s passing was such a loss to humanity and the art of humor.

          • UWOTM8

            “BAH marriages”
            Literally an officer/SNCO’s worst nightmare….

      • cheeseburgercheeseburger

        but what if you are marrying your best friend!?!?!?

        • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

          1. He’d be really surprised
          2. He’d probably punch me for suggesting it.

          • cheeseburgercheeseburger

            every wedding Ive ever been to had the guy proclaim to everyone “he was marrying his best friend” though! liars all

            • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

              As I age I attend fewer and fewer weddings. That said, the last one I went too, this last summer, I don’t think that was said by anybody. The one before that, which was a good 10 years ago, was highly traditional (Lutheran back when they weren’t sellouts) and nobody mentioned that either. I may need trendy-er friends and family.

              • Jim Johnson
                • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

                  I’ll bet you a solid dollar that if you said “Dude, a pink hat” he’d give you the “I’m secure enough in my masculinity…” bullshit speech that effeminate guys use to justify acting like women.

                  You’d be a fool to take me up on this bet. Heh.

                  • Jim Johnson

                    Like buying tampons for her. It is a failed shit test.

                  • Jak

                    Pink used to be a masculine color however. John Wayne wore pink shirts in some of his old cowboy movies.

                    • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

                      Conveniently those movies are all black and white, hoss!

                      I doubt highly that he wore a pink hat. Pink shirts, sure, but if you wear a pink hat, you’re a faeg.

                    • Jak

                      Point made.

                    • bem

                      John Wayne was a homo.

                    • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

                      Game, set, match.

                    • Jak

                      You realize I was named after a John Wayne character, right?

                    • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

                      Your name is Homosexual Jak?

                      Weird.

                    • Jak

                      …I hate you guys.

                    • bem
                    • cheeseburgercheeseburger

                      Yes! Spidermemes are back

                    • Murdoc34

                      They never really left.

                    • Jim Johnson

                      da na na na na na na na na na SPIDER MEME!

                    • Jim Johnson

                      Pilgrim, I’ll kill ya.

                    • Jim Johnson

                      I have a pink shirt. Not the point. That dude is doing it because his wife put him up to it.

                  • bem

                    Its your old nemesis Bob Pastelshirt!!!!

                • what.a.fag

                  • Jim Johnson

                    agreed, heterosexual but a fag nonetheless.

          • UnreconstructedConfederate

            Rofl

        • Thefourhorstmann

          Guess it would apply if you’re marrying another dude.

    • Jim Johnson

      Agreed, a healthy brood is your only legacy. That is why you see older childless people get so attached to pets.

      • UnreconstructedConfederate

        I’m not a pets person, critters belong outdoors.

        • Boothe

          Amen to that! And quite a few of my “pets” are edible too!

          • UnreconstructedConfederate

            Same, I don’t presently have any livestock but, I’ve eaten some critters that I had previously named. They taste just as good as ones with no names.

            • Jak

              “They taste just as good as ones with no names.”
              You ate a horse?!

              • UnreconstructedConfederate

                No but, I would if I got hungry enough.

                • Jak

                  Well I imagine if you’ve been through the desert, you would be.

                  • UnreconstructedConfederate

                    Especially on a horse with no name.

                    • Jak

                      I already used that bit. Get your own material!

                    • UnreconstructedConfederate

                      Busted….

                    • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

                      You have to admit, it does feel good to get out of the rain.

                    • UnreconstructedConfederate

                      I can’t remember my name?

        • The fewer feces producing things in the home the better

          • Jim Johnson

            You can include rats and mice in that statement.

          • UnreconstructedConfederate

            Amen brother. The house is for people. I can’t handle that dog smell in the house, no matter how many times they bathe it and squeeze it’s butthole glands it’s still a dog and smells like one and at my house he’s outside.

            • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

              Dufuq kind of dogs have you been around man?

              • cheeseburgercheeseburger
                • Marius Aetius Lucullus

                  that thing is dead right?
                  mummified even , dug up after 1000 years in a crypt?

              • UnreconstructedConfederate

                Those little goofy dogs that old women keep in the house that they take to the groomer every week lol

                • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

                  Well shoot, home fries, those aren’t dogs.

                  Dogs less than 40 pounds are cats, and cats are useless – Ron Swanson

                  • UnreconstructedConfederate

                    I can agree with that, I really hate those little bug eyed dogs that think they can wrangle a T-Rex

          • UnreconstructedConfederate

            All this talk of the house being for folks only for some reason reminds me of this story-
            https://youtu.be/266vruLtd1o

            • Clovis, there ain’t one thing that that monkey hates more …

              • UnreconstructedConfederate

                Don’t you let that thang out of there, it looks too much like folks to be out of there!

        • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

          I’m totally a pet person. Life would seem incomplete without a dog sitting at my feet looking at me with a dorky dog look and giving me a “dog smile”.

          • UnreconstructedConfederate

            He is welcome to sit at my feet…when I’m outside.

            • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

              Work and for-a-purpose animals are fine. Nothing against them, in fact, I highly endorse them being around since they fit a purpose. I’d still like a knucklehead dog around in the house though.

      • cheeseburgercheeseburger

        and younger people too, especially women in nyc

    • Sir Lee

      I know so many in NYC — very involved with rescue dogs…

      • B1k3_Ch41N

        That’s wouldn’t be so sad if didn’t know that majority of those people are lonely and childless.

        • bem

          That’s the thing – women are WIRED to nurture things, so when they don’t have kids, all that natural impulse has to go somewhere.

          • Kids also keep women too busy for drama, to some extent

            • Jim Johnson

              another reason to home school your kids.

  • dckhead_con_artist

    This was a great article . I don’t see how a man can exist , build his empire , just to have it thrown away or confiscated and distributed by the government or greedy relatives . Watching kids grow from a crawling baby to an adult is such a joy and those memories will last not only with you as you get older but with you’re children after you pass . Sure after a few generations you will be forgotten but a part of you lives on forever .

  • Stoic Nihilist

    Wait, you fantasize about pretend defending your family with martial arts? Like those 3 ninjas movies? 😂

    • bem

      you DON’T?!?!?

      • Jak

        The 3 Ninjas movie was the shit, yo.

        • Stooges were better

          • bem

            Amigos too.

            • UnreconstructedConfederate

              You don’t want that sissy gun, you want a mans gun!

              • Trick photography

                • UnreconstructedConfederate

                  No way man, Little Neddy really flew that plane.

              • cheeseburgercheeseburger

                PLEEE-thor-ah!

            • Jak

              Muskateers? ….Nah.

            • Infamous

              • UnreconstructedConfederate

                That’s means “even more than famous”!

                • bem

                  Unfamous?

  • NemesisEnforcer

    Not only is family the most base instinct – for most men, no matter how outstanding they are, it will be the only attainable legacy for them. Humans have walked the earth for nearly 3 million years. Estimates vary, but humans developed agricultural civilization – not just gathering plant foods, but growing them – around 40,000 years ago. Yet, for all of this time, and all of these countless billions of souls. how many names are known to us? Even back only 1000 years, the names of remarkable individuals is short, and with each passing year, the relevance of many of them is fading and some vanish from memory. Technologies change. Languages go extinct. our paper writings are not copied and turn to dust. Our electrons are corrupted or infected by viruses and no one bothers to execute the back up. Cultures are obliterated by disaster, conquered or otherwise erased from memory. Time obliterates all of individualized human achievement over a long enough horizon.

    But, research your family tree and you will notice that as it stretches back, countless mundane and ordinary men are there. Their bloodlines live on in you. And the longer that goes and the more offspring you and your descendants have, the more difficult it is to eradicate. Family is the only lasting legacy that is attainable for the most ordinary of men. Go raw and blast deep.

    • jammyjaybird

      Some anthropologist noted that modern Westerners forget their ancestors after about three generations. Think about it. Do you know much, if anything, about your great-grandparents? I know very little. That’s where the line stops. Sad truth is that your children’s children’s children, who are your legacy, will eventually forget you too.

      That’s why the BEST way to leave your name on this earth is through your **accomplishments**. Even better if its something tangible that people can hold in their hands, or use in some way.

      • Due to the genetic curse of longevity in my family I knew my great grandparents and have funny stories of them. They didn’t die until I was a teen.

        However, you are 100% correct because when I talk to people about conversations I had with my “ggm” they look at me like I have two heads

      • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

        Who invented the wheel? Fire?

        I don’t entirely disagree though.

        My great grandparents watched Hitler’s Luftwaffe bomb their neighborhood. My great great grandparents saw the Great War take away some of their brothers. My grandparents ^n conquered Scandanavia and England. I know their names.

        Not all legacies are for naught. If my great, great grandkids know my name or not is irrelevant, they will have my DNA in them, and by the rules of Nature, I win. Memory not required.

        • jammyjaybird

          The rules of nature < the rules of man.

          Anybody can knock up a woman. Boom, nature proclaims a winner. Not anybody can construct the cathedral of Chartres.

          • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

            Without knocking up a woman, the cathedral will never get conceived of. End of the day, the rules of Nature always prevail. People don’t materialize out of thin air.

            • jammyjaybird

              That’s a pretty low bar. P in V = winner? I like to see my winners suffer a bit more, maybe hit a target that nobody else can hit, or even see.

              • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

                99.999% of people never accomplish building a cathedral. If the goal is only to construct great wonders, we wouldn’t exist as a species. The rules of Nature prevail, the names attached to artifacts are irrelevant and almost always lost to history, in time. That, sir, is a low bar.

      • bem

        What accomplishment will last more than three generations?

        • I’d give 4 million just to take a piss without it hurting

          • bem

            accomplishment?
            And there isn’t even a plaque, or a signpost or a statue of him in that town!

            • He was head strong, talking loud saying stupid things

            • Would you like a tuna sandwich

              • bem

                only if its on a TV tray

        • jammyjaybird

          You’re typing on one right now, for starters.

        • cheeseburgercheeseburger
          • bem

            BFD

            • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

              It kind of is. What a beautiful building, outside and inside.

              • bem

                pffffffft

                • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

                  It is. Have you walked through it? Gorgeous. One doesn’t have to agree with the Catholic Church to admire the beauty of the architecture, stained glass and atmosphere of the joint.

                  • bem

                    I built one twice as big. Didn’t even take that long.

                    • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

                      Try that 500 years ago, home fries.

                    • bem

                      I did it 600 years ago. So there.

                    • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

                      Wait…were you born in the village of Glenfinnan on the shores of Loch Shiel?

                    • bem

                      Nah. College Point on the shores of Flushing bay. Same-same.

                    • But did you have a keg at flushing meadow

                    • cheeseburgercheeseburger

                      its pronounced Fruh-shing Bay now

                    • Watch your coke

                    • John Galt

                      Mr. Wan and his employess wish you a Merry Christmas.

                    • bem

                      I’ve watched the sun rise from the Unisphere, yes…

                    • Che la luna

                    • bem

                      I dont speak Animal.

                    • Jim Johnson

                      There is a house in New Orleans

                    • bem

                      You’re putting an undue Burdon on this joke……

            • Marius Aetius Lucullus

              Burn the F*cker Down?

              • bem

                perish the thought!
                nah,
                Big Fukkin Deal

        • Jim Johnson

          Geocaching, you sign your name on a piece of paper that is in a metal canister hidden somewhere in the forest. That is immortality right there.

          • bem

            I buried a bunch of old paint cans and batteries in the national park – does that count?

            • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

              It does, to the cops.

              • Jim Johnson

                On my parents place is this ravine where my great grandparents used for a dump. When I was a little kid, there were all kinds of cool stuff to look at. Over the years, most all of it has been grown over. I suspect in another 20 years, there will be little evidence.

                • bem

                  I briefly owned a house where the previous three generations had their own little dedicated landfill. Sure, it would be fun for kids but trust me that shit will be its OWN legacy.

                  • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

                    So in order:

                    Creating Cathedral > Dumping Garbage > having kids. According to anthropologists who have never, apparently, studied language or history.

                    • Jim Johnson

                      Really, knowledge has a legacy that will last longer. Aristotle and Tesla will have a legacy longer than we will, even if they didn’t have kids.

                    • bem

                      Yeah – I need to teach more kids. Stupid megan’s law…..

                    • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

                      Knowledge passes in and out of history. The human memory, I submit, is a lesser milestone (although still a milestone) compared to actually sending your life force into the future. People forget. DNA is forever, excepting supernovas of course.

                    • Jak

                      I hope to create a few different legacies.
                      First and foremost are my kids. May they live long past my death and carry on the bloodline with pride.
                      Second is this site. I hope it will guide many men in the future.
                      Finally, my writing outside of the site. Hopefully they become the next big series and makes me a ton of money. Heh.

                    • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

                      Been there done that regarding kids and career. I’m at a new place in life. My goals at this point are:

                      – Moving somewhere warm, with a beach
                      – Opening a bar, on said beach
                      – Convincing hot young nubiles to have threesomes with me

                    • Jim Johnson

                      Sounds like a Jimmy Buffet song, not bad.

                    • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

                      I think that ideally, living life closely adhering to a theme from a Jimmy Buffet song is optimal.

                    • cheeseburgercheeseburger

                      bar name- “Cocktails & Dreams”…john stamos and the beach boys(whats left of them) as the house band…

                    • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

                      I’m liking the cut of your jib, sir.

                    • cheeseburgercheeseburger

                      where would you open up a joint is the question. I know a guy who gave up the rat race about 3 years ago, became a chartered boat capt in the Caribbean…then the hurricane blew through a few months ago…boat was fine, but most of the island was leveled

                    • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

                      Eventually places like that recover though. I think the trick is not to go for broke and invest your entire nest egg into a shack on the beach with a beer tap. I don’t intend to throw all of my money into a dream like this and plan on holding plenty back in reserve. That said, I can still afford this dream if and when I choose to pursue it. Plus, you know, insurance and shit.

                    • cheeseburgercheeseburger

                      Baja California it is then!

                    • You teach your children and others. They pass that on. Then they pass it on. Hundreds of years later someone is still passing it on. And what I teach comes partially down from what was passed on from before

                    • Jak

                      Yes. I’ve often thought of creating a Scouting group though I doubt I’d go through the BSA with all the SJW crap they’re catering to lately. Mentoring boys into young men is a great option.

              • Boothe

                Let’s not forget the EPA…

        • UnreconstructedConfederate

          That rock in the cemetery with your name scratched on it?

          • bem

            only if YOU do the scratchin’

          • Jim Johnson

            Vandalism?

      • NemesisEnforcer

        Disagree. You equate a legacy with name recognition. It doesn’t matter that I know nothing about all but one of my great-grandparents. Behaviors, values, personality traits, etc… that belonged to them still reside in me. If legacy equates to simple name recognition, name the guy who invented the hammer. Lost to history. And you miss my point – not everyone is smart enough to create something revolutionary. Most innovations are quickly lost to history or discarded once they become obsolete. Most of the contemporaries of hammer man were unremarkable in every way, but something they put here lives on in their ancestors. One day, hammers may become obsolete. Technology may advance to a state where we fashion a better method of joining materials. But so long as new children are born, bloodlines continue.

        • jammyjaybird

          Obviously it’s a lot harder to have your name remembered. That was my point. It’s a higher goal. The guy who invented the eglet won’t be remembered by name, but he left an enormous legacy.

          So, here’s my view, in descending order, of the most impressive legacies:

          1. Physical accomplishment + name recognition
          2. Physical accomplishment + no name recognition
          3. Reproduction

          I’m not denigrating anybody. 99.99% of all humans are in category 3. I’m just saying that 1 and 2 are a higher bar. Of course, it helps to be born rich.

      • Sir Lee

        “That’s why the BEST way to leave your name on this earth is through your **accomplishments**. Even better if its something tangible that people can hold in their hands, or use in some way.”

        not so easy.
        even Tesla, and Newton – the 2 greatest thinker/achievers are mostly unknown today.
        And others are actively being eradicated.

        What can a regular schmo do?

        • bem

          “look upon my works ye mighty and despair”

          Legacy is best accomplished through the LIVING. At the very least to live on in earthly memory.

          • Sir Lee

            ” through the LIVING. At the very least to live on in earthly memory.”
            yea – good.
            my grandpa worked on a horse (shooting rabbits on farms), and then delivered bread via horse and cart.
            My daughter born in NYC had 12 years knowing him.
            I like to think if she lives to 100 she can recite personal anecdotes of a relative that lived in a complete different era (edit born 200 years ago) , to the space ships and such of her time. Or if we go back to sticks and stones – she has instructions.

          • Consolation_of_Philosophy

            It’s a deep contradiction. Everything is ultimately forgotten. Time churns all into nothing, and neither your works nor your memory nor your loves will escape that nothingness.

            So why work towards a legacy? It’s an act of faith.

      • UnreconstructedConfederate

        So, basically what you’re saying is that unless one invents something or some process or is a celebrity or a politician with a bridge named after him their life/existence is meaningless? That’s never going to happen for 99.99 and 9/10% of people including you. The article means exactly the opposite of that, that EVERYONE (unless incapable medically) has a legacy. Money and fame ain’t everything, life ain’t a rap video.

        • jammyjaybird

          “So, basically what you’re saying is that unless one invents something or some process or is a celebrity or a politician with a bridge named after him their life/existence is meaningless?”

          That’s not what I wrote. Please read for comprehension.

  • “He was aight”

  • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

    I was working third shift in a factory back in the late 80’s early 90’s, and going to college full time. A friend of mine, late 20’s early 30’s, not my best friend but a friend whose house I’d been to and whose children and wife I’d met and socialized with, was going home for the evening. He was a lab guy, name of Ron, and he worked in Quality Assurance. Nice guy, decent, hard working, a bit sarcastic and funny. I passed as he was going off shift (I had some more items to finish) and he mentioned that he was going home and was looking forward to a nice “dinner” (aka breakfast, since third shift ended at 7:30 a.m.). I wished him well and continued about my work. One hour later, a call came in; he was dead. Aneurysm. He went home, laid down on the couch for a minute, and the things inside his head decided to explode, killing him instantly.

    I remember seeing his two kids, both sons, around 3 to 5 years of age at the time, after he passed. It struck me then and there, that I needed to have kids. Powerfully even. Prior to that I was a take it or leave it guy and we didn’t really plan on having kids immediately, but something hit me hard saying “He’s dead, but part of him lives still”. I don’t think I thought the word “legacy” but the meaning of my thoughts was still in that camp. I told my wife that we needed to start trying to have kids that weekend, after the funeral.

    Something really powerful at work when you realize that you are utterly mortal. To live a life of self-contained pleasure without thought of others or the notion of the future, is to waste a life. We can construct vast frameworks justifying our myopia, but deep inside, we know the truth of the matter, even if we’ll never admit it. Our purpose, as living creatures in the universe, is to propagate and further our line, our species. Abandoning this instinct, this choice, is abandoning our soul and humanity. Those who cannot for biological/medical reasons are without fault, there is no choice to make for them.

    You may go on in life to have everything in life turn around on you, but your kids, your legacy, will move forward into the future that you’ll never see, and if you raised them right, their kids will do so as well.

    We’re all the product of choices made by individuals for millions of years, to leave a legacy and reproduce. Nobody is exempt from this. I honor my God, my family, my line, my heritage, my very individuality and being, by continuing this legacy.

    Great article Jak.

    • cheeseburgercheeseburger

      a kid from the old neighborhood died of an aneurysm last year, only 37. played minor league ball for a few years, went to law school, became a JAG. well liked, well regarded. was engaged to be married too. You never know when your number is up…

      • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

        Indeed. Your day of doom is etched into fate. Not a thing you can do to alter it, neither to move it forward nor to stop its coming. Live life with that in mind. Live courageously and with passion.

        • cheeseburgercheeseburger

          I would imagine being a JAG would require you to bounce around the country? Hard to have a serious relationship if so

          • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

            What does being a Judge Advocate General have to do with anything?

            Actually kind of don’t know what JAG means, except Judge Advocate General. Can you lend a brother a hand here, homie?

            • bem
              • Boothe

                Now that’s a JAG!!! I bet your friends will call bullshit when you claim to have blown a Jaguar though…

                • bem

                  Best mod for a Jaguar – throw the engine in the garbage and put in something American.

                  • Boothe

                    I hadn’t thought about it for ages, but now that you mention it, I had a coworker who did just that. Pulled the Jag engine / transmission and installed a Chevy 350. That still didn’t fix the electrical system though.

                    • bem

                      sweet! had the same contraption prowling the neighborhood of my yute, too! It was 350-mania back then, people putting them in everything!

                    • Boothe

                      Yep. Had a Jeep CJ 5 offered to me recently with a Chevy 350 in it and 3 on the floor. I bet it would pull wheelies, lol. But WRT to the Jag conversion; the Lucas electrical system was devised by demons in the bowels of hell to torment mortal man!

                    • bem

                      I’ve hear horror stories….

                • Jim Johnson

                  Sorry, I ain’t into that kink.

              • cheeseburgercheeseburger
                • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

                  She could be fairly cute if she didn’t insist on dressing like a man.

                  • cheeseburgercheeseburger

                    she posed for Maxim and FHM when men were allowed to be men. look those spreads up if youre bored, all woman in em

                  • NemesisEnforcer

                    The female uniform actually includes a skirt. The Marines don’t play that gender equal shit just yet.

                    Also, this bitch is a Lt.Col., but she has exactly one sea service deployment ribbon. LOmotherfuckingL!

                • bem

                  WT

                  • Jak

                    Would tickle?

                    • bem

                      er, OK.

                    • cheeseburgercheeseburger

                      would tackle?

                    • Jak

                      Would triangulate?

                    • bem

                      all acceptable.

                    • Would teabag?

                  • Jim Johnson

                    would tittyfu….

                  • rockorbe

                    Would triangulate

                • Ainigmaris Thales

                  WB.

            • cheeseburgercheeseburger

              well, he was getting married later in life, I assume being in the military when youre single isnt an easy. If he got married at 30, who knows, he may have had a kid or two, legacy and all…

              • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

                I am utterly out of the loop regarding what you’re talking about here man. Seriously. I’ve taken to not following Political Outrage Of The Day lately.

                • cheeseburgercheeseburger

                  lol, yeah I guess Im not being clear- this isnt a political post. he was judge advocate general, Ill stop typing now.

                  • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

                    Dude, I have no idea who “he” is here, lol.

              • UWOTM8

                Being a JAG isn’t a horrible life, you’re busy and may get deployed or see some rough cases. However, you’re not gonna get put on the frontlines and into the meatgrinder.
                And being a single officer in the military isn’t terrifically easy but isn’t the worst either. On one hand, 90% of the women you work with are totally off-limits (if you’re even into military girls). On the other, you’ll actually make real money unlike a junior enlisted who is practically minimum wage. Pros and cons.

                • NemesisEnforcer

                  Not to be pedantic, but a Marine JAG got lit up and wounded in an ambush in Iraq in 2003. His name was LtCol Ewers, and I believe that he was the JAG for the entire 1st Marine Division. He lived, but I distinctly remember this story spreading throughout the division. We were all pumped that even the JAG was getting some!

        • UnreconstructedConfederate

          An old Korean War vet told me one time that, after you’ve been shot at enough times you learn that if one of those bullets has your name on it, it’s going to get you and there isn’t a damn thing you can do about it.

          • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

            He is entirely correct.

      • jammyjaybird

        College buddy of mine died of cancer at 35. Another college buddy came in and swooped up the widow, adopted his kids.

        • cheeseburgercheeseburger

          is this a good or bad thing?

        • bem

          buddy2 GAVE buddy 1 cancer!!!!
          what a DIK!

          • jammyjaybird

            buddy2 is a cardiologist, so that’s his alibi.

            • bem

              Heart Cancer no less!

      • John Galt

        A classmate of mine I knew from K-12 was driving home from vacation with his family and dropped over at the steering wheel because of an aneurysm. The car came to a stop and the wife and 4 kids were ok, but a shock none-the-less.

    • Murdoc34

      It struck me then and there, that I needed to have kids.

      Kids AND life insurance.

      • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

        Lol, yeah, that too.

      • Jim Johnson

        I have a half million on my head, like 50k on my wife’s head. I guess it is supposed to hurt the family more if I kick the bucket. Another reason to keep your SMV up even if you’re married.

    • I thought we were going to stop after having two children, but I got into genealogy and something about studying my family’s history made me want to have more children. And so here we are.

      • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

        Nothing wrong with that.

        • John Galt

          Go son go! Go son go!

    • Honey Badger

      There’s just something about funerals that make people horny.

    • Gundog

      15 days until the boy child is born. Nervously/anxiously waiting for my life to turn upside down.

      • Jim Johnson

        Congrats, is this #1?

        • Gundog

          Yep. I’ve only held like two babies in my entire life.

          • Jim Johnson

            I was the same. Yes it will turn your life upside down for 2-3 weeks, but then you tow the kid with you. They are tougher than you think.

          • John Galt

            You’ll be fine. Your life is about to take a deeper meaning and your personal qualms meaningless.

            Welcome to the club “daddio.”

      • cheeseburgercheeseburger

        moose jerky- not for newborns

        • Gundog

          Haha, once he has teeth it is. As of the last ultrasound the kid was in like 92% of head size and 78% in overall size. I credit that to my wife’s healthy diet of game meat (and ridiculous health preparation for incubating).

      • Murdoc34

        Congratulations, man. Mine came about 3 weeks ago. Nothing to be nervous about!

    • Stoic Nihilist

      Dude I got bored after the first paragraph.
      Brevity is your friend.

      • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

        Your short attention span is not my problem, it’s yours. Learn to adult.

        • Stoic Nihilist

          My attention span is fine. Learn to adult yourself by expressing your thoughts in a concise manner.
          You rambling on and over explaining shit is not my problem. Clearly you have communication issues in your life.

  • UnreconstructedConfederate

    Where’s McGoo at? He should have already been here talking about breast feeding legacies by now.

    • Sir Lee

      yea, and he is so right – just how to implement his strategy?

      • UnreconstructedConfederate

        Sooner the better I say! Breast milk all around!

    • Jak

      He seems to comment more at night.

  • Another way to leave a legacy, in addition to children, not in place of, is to mentor youth. I am a youth minister at my church and to know that you make an impact on their lives and know they respect you and love you means the world to me.

    • Jim Johnson

      What is that passage about the leaven? I concur.

      • A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?

        Is that the right one?

        • Jim Johnson

          They got me working with the young men right now. It’s a fun calling, but there is this group of about 4-5 kids, about 12-13 years old that are dropped off by their parents who rarely come to church. The kids just hang out and cause trouble, disrupting the other kids and not participate. I’m not sure what to do about it. If I talk to the parents, the kids and the parents will probably stop coming. Even doing activities like basketball don’t interest them. They don’t want to go to camp outs. Annoying situation.

          • That sucks. I;ve seen that sort of thing before, mainly when I was younger. Now we usually only have regular churchgoers attend the special functions. If you want to hang out with the youth, come to church.

            • Jim Johnson

              I’m about tempted to tell them in no uncertain terms to GTFO, let the chips fall where they may, and then rebuild with the remaining good kids. Behaving like that makes it less fun for the good kids who have their struggles but are at least trying.

              • Sometimes you just have to do that. Why make good kids suffer because of idiots. It’s all about ROI. Sometimes you have to cut your losses.

              • Boothe

                Yes, that is probably the best course of action. Back years ago when we were still home schooling we read up on the effects of moving troubled children into better schools in the hope they would benefit from the positive influence. The inverse turned out to be true. Drug use and teen pregnancy went up. Their negative and destructive world view propagated; the bad apples spread rot through the whole barrel.

                • bem

                  No less a personage than my own dad, bem senior, once said: You can take 6 Oxford English professors and lock them in a room with Eddie Murphy and in 2 weeks they’ll all come out talking like HIM.

                  • Jim Johnson

                    Yup, negroism is like leprosy

                    • bem

                      not as oozy at least…

          • bem

            I know what that’s like….
            I used to barge into those classes just to mack on the girls. They told me ‘this isn’t a dating agency’ or something and booted me out.

            • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

              I told you two weeks ago that they were going to kick you out eventually.

              • Yeah it;s a little creepy when a 50 something guy shows up at a church youth group wanting to “hang out”

            • cheeseburgercheeseburger

              “to mack on girls” lololol

              • bem

                what? why else would one go?

    • John Galt

      Thats great. My uncle volunteers to teach CCD classes and gives me something to think about.

    • Gundog

      I did the Big Brother program for a kid from 12 to graduation. Basically, we hung out about every two weeks – eating burgers, wandering around the mall – standard teen age stuff. It was a great experience. I watched him grow into a pretty capable young man who took off for trade school.

    • bem

      I am theoretically interested in this. No idea how or what I can provide though.

      • Ainigmaris Thales

        They do background checks, bem, so you’re screwed.

        • bem

          o well. cant say I didn’t try.

  • EastsideProphet

    Hear, hear! Living for one’s own pleasure is indeed an empty life. For those of the Christian persuasion, I recommend a book by Dennis Rainey, Stepping Up. Although not a red pill focused book, it focuses on traits and principles that truly are red pill – God’s expectations of us as men. Building a legacy and becoming a patriarch included. Doing the hard things in life.

  • Sir Lee

    The only person that left and admirable legacy, without kids or invention is Errol Flynn

  • Mr Kersey

    “Oh, my gawwwd…it’s Mr Kersey!”
    That’s right. However, since this is the last time I call in to this site, you might as well read my comment properly before starting of with your sick trolling attempts about Haitians/Africans and AIDS.
    Today’s AKC article was pretty good about leaving a legacy…and also a good reminder for myself why I should not waste more time arguing with idiots here.
    I am a father of three children. It has always been my dream to have a loving, loving wife and many children. I married young. ( I was 24 and my wife three years younger than me.) I was red-pilled long before Roosh and Return of Kings came along, (nevermind AKC). Long before Facebook, Tinder and smartphones were invented.
    The state of women in the US and all of Europe was pretty back even in the early 2000s when I red-pilled. I realized that I needed to travel if I want to find a decent wife who could be a mother of my future children. I also realized that I loved Black ladies more than any other group of women – and much preferred African and Haitian women to the so-called Black women you find in the UK and the US. (Also remember – back in the early 2000s interracial dating was still a taboo in both the US, let alone in Europe.) AS a red-pilled, alpha-male and I saved up and used a research program in an African University ). The best decision I ever made. Three months later I was dating my future wife…a traditional, family-oriented, slim and feminine young lady from a decent family. 11 months later we were getting married. Fifteen years later we are still together, have three beautiful children. Our oldest son is in high school now, the most intelligent one in his class.
    This is my legacy. My family is the only thing that matters to me.I understand that this makes many malicious commenters jealous – but that’s not my fault. Start your own red-pilled journey and find yourself a decent wife. It is possible if you look in the right place. There are no set rules, follow your common sense and instinct. Try not to spend much time on “Manosphere” sites…most of them started genuine but they got sidetracked. Many of them turned into hangout for stupid White Trashionalist…other will keep you down with their toxic negativity and pessimism.
    To a few, decent non-racist AKC readers: I wish you all the best. Particularly AutomaticSlim and W Pabst – the two guys despite their difficulties seem to be honest about themselves and genuine. Double cheeseburger may fit into this category but sadly he keeps a bad company.
    Most of the rest of the commenters add nothing to the discussion other than casual racism and utter gibberish which they see as “humor” – notably Lolknee, G.o Jefferson, As. Thales, bem and many others. You cannot be an alpha male if you spend your whole life online, commenting gibberish. No amount of aids jokes will make that go away.
    I would not even comment on hardcore racist lunatics such as “UnreconstructedConfederate” , Native Balkanian or Blue-Eyed Devil. etc
    As for Lattacku – you claim to be an Africa-American yet you still hang around here after all racial slurs and racist jokes. You might not be an African-American at all.
    To you Jak: you are not the best example of editor’s ethics since you have actively condoned the harassment of a non-racist commneter and encouraged racist comments. Yes, Disqus does not need my reports to shut your blog dowwn. They might do it nevertheless, since the comments are monitored by them, believe it or not. You challenged me for a fistfight, but failed to realized the old rules: according the old rules I should be able to name the time and location. The good news for you: I am not going to meet you. I have more important thing to do than settling “scores” with some childish idiots. I would only fight someone in the course of protecting my family. (Look at the bright side: I saved you from the embarassment since you couldn’t afford the ticket to the UK anyway.)

    To the few sensible and non-racist readers/commenters: happy Holidays. All the Best
    Mr Kersey.

    Edit: to JumpnJive…you accused me of having no sense of humor.
    have you heard the result of the latest surveys ?According to them 85% of man is Mississippi have at least one of their prayers answered: that when their sisters got their period.
    Now you know how offensive jokes feel. Goodbye.

    • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

      You’ve “last timed” quite a bit kid.

      Hey, how are you doing anyway? How is your white blood cell count?

      • bem

        annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd begin.

      • Jak

        Well, I’ll give you a hint… http://www.kerseyhasaids.xyz

        • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

          You racist condoner!

          Dude doesn’t even bother reading the site, but that’s ok, his evaluation of the content comes prepackaged with many invalid assumptions!

          • Jak

            I heard you gotta pay extra for that.

        • bem

          I’m only clicking that if I can comment there.

    • Ainigmaris Thales

      Sorry about your AIDS.

      • Marius Aetius Lucullus

        he’s got it in for you Thales

    • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

      Archiving for posterity:

      “Oh, my gawwwd…it’s Mr Kersey!”
      That’s
      right. However, since this is the last time I call in to this site, you
      might as well read my comment properly before starting of with your
      sick trolling attempts about Haitians/Africans and AIDS.
      Today’s AKC
      article was pretty good about leaving a legacy…and also a good
      reminder for myself why I should not waste more time arguing with idiots
      here.
      I am a father of three children. It has always been my dream
      to have a loving, loving wife and many children. I married young. ( I
      was 24 and my wife three years younger than me.) I was red-pilled long
      before Roosh and Return of Kings came along, (nevermind AKC). Long
      before Facebook, Tinder and smartphones were invented.
      The state of
      women in the US and all of Europe was pretty back even in the early
      2000s when I red-pilled. I realized that I needed to travel if I want to
      find a decent wife who could be a mother of my future children. I also
      realized that I loved Black ladies more than any other group of women –
      and much preferred African and Haitian women to the so-called Black omen
      you find in the UK and the US. (Also remember – back in the early
      2000s interracial dating was still a taboo in both the US, let alone in
      Europe.) AS a red-pilled, alpha-male and I saved up and used a research
      program in an African University ). The best decision I ever made. Three
      months later I was dating my future wife…a traditional,
      family-oriented, slim and feminine young lady from a decent family. 11
      months later we were getting married. Fifteen years later we are still
      together, have three beautiful children. Our oldest son is in high
      school now, the most intelligent one in his class.
      This is my legacy.
      My family is the only thing that matters to me.I understand that this
      makes many malicious commenters jealous – but that’s not my fault. Start
      your own red-pilled journey and find yourself a decent wife. It is
      possible if you look in the right place. There are no set rules, follow
      your common sense and instinct. Try not to spend much time on
      “Manosphere” sites…most of them started genuine but they got
      sidetracked. Many of them turned into hangout for stupid White
      Trashionalist…other will keep you down with their toxic negativity and
      pessimism.
      To a few, decent non-racist AKC readers: I wish you all
      the best. Particularly AutomaticSlim and W Pabst – the two guys despite
      their difficulties seem to be honest about themselves and genuine.
      Double cheeseburger may fit into this category but sadly he keeps a bad
      company.
      Most of the rest of the commenters add nothing to the
      discussion other than casual racism and utter gibberish which they see
      as “humor” – notably Lolknee, G.o Jefferson, As. Thales, bem and many
      others. You cannot be an alpha male if you spend your whole life online,
      commenting gibberish. No amount of aids jokes will make that go away.
      I
      would not even comment on hardcore racist lunatics such as
      “UnreconstructedConfederate” , Native Balkanian or Blue-Eyed Devil. etc
      As
      for Lattacku – you claim to be an Africa-American yet you still hang
      around here after all racial slurs and racist jokes. You might not be an
      African-American at all.
      To you Jak: you are not the best example of
      editor’s ethics since you have actively condoned the harassment of a
      non-racist commneter and encouraged racist comments. Yes, Disqus does
      not need my reports to shut your blog dowwn. They might do it
      nevertheless, since the comments are monitored by them, believe it or
      not. You challenged me for a fistfight, but failed to realized the old
      rules: according the old rules I should be able to name the time and
      location. The good news for you: I am not going to meet you. I have more
      important thing to do than settling “scores” with some childish idiots.
      I would only fight someone in the course of protecting my family. (Look
      at the bright side: I saved you from the embarassment since you
      couldn’t afford the ticket to the UK anyway.)

      To the few sensible and non-racist readers/commenters: happy Holidays. All the Best
      Mr Kersey.

      • bem

        You’re not suggesting he’s going to delete his account are you?

        • Jak

          Perish the thought!

        • Mr Kersey

          Is that such a bad idea?

          • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

            Only if you’re a coward who cannot stand behind his words.

            Which history has demonstrated, you are.

            Or the HIV has gotten to you. I don’t know. Either or.

            • Mr Kersey

              Still jeaoulous about my family life? Worry not, I have better things to do than arguing with me.
              However, you with your 43000+ comments…you have no life outside this website.
              No amount of aids “jokes” will make that go away, and you know it.

              • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

                Still jeaoulous about my family life? Worry not, I have better things to do than arguing with me.
                However, you with your 43000+ comments…you have no life outside this website.
                No amount of aids “jokes” will make that go away, and you know it.

                Hey, at least I’m not stalking people on websites trying to infect them with digital AIDS. So I have that going for me.

              • Ainigmaris Thales

                Were you this crazy before the AIDS? Did you lose your sense of humor after you contracted the HIV or were you born without one?

              • bem

                “Worry not, I have better things to do than arguing with me.”
                there you have it folks.
                https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8f6d6ec339b42031f3b729065e6d46b0ee15329eed46a1407fb2ff0c9284d092.png

                • Jak

                  I’m dying. XD

                  • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

                    That’s a pretty insensitive remark to make around a man who has AIDS, donchathink?

          • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

            Kersey Archive:

            Is that such a bad idea?

          • COme on, man. Just lighten up a little and roll with it. It’ll get better

      • Jak

        Dear Kersey, since you deleted your account in predictable fashion after shitting all over the comments section, allow me a rebuttal.

        “However, since this is the last time I call in to this site,”

        Doubtful. AIDS never goes away.

        “I also realized that I loved Black ladies more than any other group of women and much preferred African and Haitian women to the so-called Black omen you find in the UK and the US”

        Sounds awfully racist to me. Much more racist than anything the regular commenters here have ever said.

        “To you Jak: you are not the best example of editor’s ethics since you have actively condoned the harassment of a
        non-racist commneter and encouraged racist comments.”

        I believe in free speech, something a lot of you people across the pond don’t appreciate or understand. Also, still waiting for a screenshot of when I encouraged racist comments. Slander much?

        “You challenged me for a fistfight, but failed to realized the old
        rules: according the old rules I should be able to name the time and
        location.”

        Wrong. I told you if you ever wanted to challenge me, since you like to bring up fighting my readership so often, I wouldn’t refuse. I even offered to videotape the match and 90% of the proceeds would go to the victor’s charity of choice. Think of the children, man!

        “To the few sensible and non-racist readers/commenters:”

        Read – all the commenters.

        “happy Holidays”
        It’s ‘Merry Christmas’ around here, you PC basturd.

        • Ainigmaris Thales

          Upvote for “Merry Christmas”

        • bem

          of course, to “win” you must now delete your account and disappear for a while…

          • Jak

            Are you implying I’m some sort of punk ass bitch with a venereal disease?

            • bem

              You’re a fukkin mind-reader.

      • cheeseburgercheeseburger

        knew he liked me! thunderbuddies for life

        • Murdoc34

          You and AutomaticSlim. How did you guys end up getting a pass?

          • Marius Aetius Lucullus

            and Pabst!!! wtf!!! seriously w… t…. f…

            • Murdoc34

              I didn’t mention Pabst, because that one that made sense considering the entire context. You see, Kersey is pretty much insane. Therefore, we can expect the insane.

              • Marius Aetius Lucullus

                ahh yes

    • You do realize that it’s mainly in jest and we’re not truly malicious here? Congrats on your wife and children. I personally do not agree with crossing race lines but I’m happy for you.

      I think you’ve caught grief because of your tendency to lash out at anyone that pokes fun at you as racist and your lack of humor. We actually don’t care what color your wife is.

      Again, best of luck and Merry Christmas

      • bem

        yeah.

      • Jak

        Yep, for someone who’s been red-pilled for so long, he seems unable to grasp the concept of Agreeing and Amplifying to overcome the AIDS jokes. Hell, even an Agree and Deflect approach would be more effective than what he does now.

    • bem

      You were less angry as Gandhi.

    • John Galt

      Welcome back.

    • Ainigmaris Thales

      I told y’all, I can’t be racist, I fucked a half PR chick once.

      • Jak

        Game. Set. And match.

      • Jim Johnson

        front half or back half?

        • Ainigmaris Thales

          Lower half, I think.

      • John Galt

        Public relations?

        • Ainigmaris Thales

          No, it was in private.

        • bem

          Part Racist.

        • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

          You shoulda seen the press releases on that chick!

          • John Galt

            Barbara Walters? Heh

    • Murdoc34

      […] my future wife…a traditional, family-oriented, slim and feminine young lady from a decent family. […]Fifteen years later we are still together, have three beautiful children. […] My family is the only thing that matters to me.

      See, this is the kind of stuff that makes you welcome here.

      The parts where you interpret everything as racism is the kind of stuff that makes people want to provoke you. You need to realize there actually is no racism being expressed.

      I married outside of my race, too, if it matters to you.

      • I married a partly French woman. That’s kind of outside my race

      • Mr Kersey

        “I married outside of my race, too, if it matters to you.”
        Yet, you never objected to your pals’ racism…

        • Honest question: Why are you so thin skinned on this? I get slammed (by you before as well) about being from Mississippi but I just roll with it. NO.ONE.CARES.WHAT.RACE.YOUR.WIFE.IS.

          The important thing is that you have embraced family life and would actually line up with ideals expressed her, if you would only open your eyes a little. Quit viewing everything through the prism of race. It makes you look like you feel guilty about it

          • Mr Kersey

            I guess you will never understand it.

            • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

              I guess you will never understand it.
              https://www.youtube.com/wat

              Ah man, Christmas time and out come the family videos…

        • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

          “I married outside of my race, too, if it matters to you.”
          Yet, you never objected to your pals’ racism…

          Hey, by the way, fuck you, you thin skinned, humorless simpleton. You see racial comments when people say “Good morning”. Grow a pair.

          Thought I’d get that out there directly instead of beating around the bush about it. Heh.

          • Mr Kersey

            That’s your opinion. Thats is exactly what it is: an opinion. Not a fact.
            Edit: now, why don’t you log-off and take a ride in your “90% white” hickie town and game your “Viking princesses” (read: nasty white Midwestern landwhales.) You have no life outside of this side. And you know it.

            • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

              That’s your opinion. Thats is exactly what it is: an opinion. Not a fact.

              Nope, fact. This is a non-racialist site. It talks about family life and being good fathers and husbands.

              But this has been explained to you before. Unfortunately any words other than “I agree” you interpret as racism.

              So anyway, still curious about your white blood cell count (Note: I’m not asking about Aryan blood cells. Just an fyi).

              • Mr Kersey

                Worry about your own blood cells, cupcake.

                • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

                  Worry about your own blood cells, cupcake.

                  That bad, huh? So sorry to hear that. I’ll look for your spot on the blanket. I promise.

              • Jim Johnson

                no black blood cell count? racist

        • Murdoc34

          There is nothing to object to!

          I keep falling for it. You make a mostly good post, and I try to give you a lead to bring you on board, but I just can’t seem to get through to you.

          • UnreconstructedConfederate

            You can’t fix stupid.

      • bem

        I married a Ukrainian, so I , too, Have AIDS.

        • John Galt

          Whats his name?

          • bem

            hahahahahaa you asshole……..

            • UnreconstructedConfederate

              After that one, you should just go home for the day lol

          • UnreconstructedConfederate

            Ohhh, good one. I salute you!

            • John Galt

              Snow flake walked right into it. I’m actually ashamed.

              Luckily I have no shame.

        • Murdoc34

          I thought it was a Ukrainian-Italian so you woulda hava da AIDS, instead.

          • bem

            no, I like my AIDS straight up. I’m the mutt of the house.

      • cheeseburgercheeseburger

        You didnt marry someone from New Jersey?

        • Murdoc34

          I married up to a real human.

          • bem

            ay AY!!! you secure THAT shit, bub!

            • Murdoc34

              Fuckin’ A, right?

    • 06believin

      This guy, lmao

      • Jim Johnson

        He has been quite a source of entertainment since summer. The guy is losing his marbles.

    • Jak

      That reminds me. How’s your site dedicated to interracial marriage coming along? Still on track to getting it up soon?

      • Mr Kersey

        The site will start in January…after the festive season end.
        I won’t be advertising it here, for obvious reason. Oh, yes…and comments will be disabled or moderated in advance. You can keep all your troll.

        • bem

          c’moooooooooooooooooooon!

          • Ainigmaris Thales

            bem, what do you call a male mudshark?

            • bem

              I dont know, Thales, what DO you call a male mudshark?

              (btw – whats a mudshark?)

              • Jim Johnson

                a blonde with jungle fever

                • Ainigmaris Thales

                  Is “mudshark” racist? Like really racist? I don’t mean like “Pocahontas” racist but like n-word racist.

                  • UnreconstructedConfederate

                    I didn’t know Pocahontas was racist I thought she had a thing for white dudes.

                    • Ainigmaris Thales

                      No, that fake indian senator whore said Trump calling her “Pocahontas” was racist, even though its really just funny.

                    • UnreconstructedConfederate

                      Oh yeah, I forgot about that crazy bitch, does she have thing for white dudes?

                • John Galt

                  Is there a term for a white man who likes black women?

                  • Ainigmaris Thales

                    “Fat”.

                    • UnreconstructedConfederate

                      “Phat”

                  • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

                    Jeffersonian?

                    Ooooohh….too soon?

                    • bem

                      Nice work.

                    • John Galt

                      Ouch.

              • Ainigmaris Thales

                “Gay”

            • Boothe

              That would be a “toad fish”. The nastiest bottom feeder on the ocean floor.

              http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6197/6033236330_23de5f923b_z.jpg

        • Jak

          Nah, man. I’m happy for you. I wrote a post a while back encouraging all men to write regardless whether it’ll be posted online or kept privately.

        • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

          The site will start in January…after the festive season end.
          I won’t be advertising it here, for obvious reason. Oh, yes…and comments
          will be disabled or moderated in advance. You can keep all your troll.

        • John Galt

          You just invited us though. You Don Draper of the interwebs.

      • bem

        DEDICATED to interracial marriage?!?!?
        sounds racist to me….why dwell on matters of ethnicity?

        • Jak

          I agree it’s pretty racist, but to each their own. Why not just focus on marriage as a whole? Why bring race into it?

          • Ainigmaris Thales

            Just asking that makes you racist, you racist.

            • Jak

              Blast! Hoisted by my own petard.

          • Mr Kersey

            Because mixed-raced couples with mixed race children face difficulties that same race couples don’t. It’s that simple.
            There is a growing number of us. We need a forum where we can discuss things without being confronted by racist trolls..

            • Ainigmaris Thales

              All kidding aside, I legitimately feel sorry for your children. Being raised by a man without a sense of humor must be really tough.

              • bem

                It is hell.

              • Jim Johnson

                My kids call me sophomoric. Life is grand.

                • John Galt

                  They don’t call you Maurice?

            • bem

              that’s why you need US!!!!

            • Murdoc34

              If I wanted to tell Kersey the following:

              You could discuss these things with us. Some of us here are in mixed marriages with mixed race children. There are no racist trolls around here.

              What do you guys think the best method of doing so would be?

              • Mr Kersey

                You are a liar.

                • Murdoc34

                  No, I’m not. I am however challenging your perception, and you are unwilling to engage in any introspection.

                • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

                  You a liar.

                • bem

                  you verb forgot.

                  • Murdoc34

                    Ebonics, you racist asshole.

            • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

              Because mixed-raced couples with mixed race children face difficulties that same race couples don’t. It’s that simple. There is a growing number of us. We need a forum where we can discuss things without being confronted by racist trolls..who tease me about my HIV

              • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

                Test….I’m sure these are still showing right?

            • cheeseburgercheeseburger

              Ill give you that, but its incumbent upon you to make sure they dont fall prey to the global marxism being pushed in all western schools- they will never be white enough, so they will have to prove how much they arent white- dont let that happen, dont let them be useful idiots

      • You mean kerseyhasaids.xyz? Or a different site?

        • bem

          o no…………………

        • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

          LOL! That shit is fantastic!

        • UnreconstructedConfederate

          I wish I could upvote more than once.

        • Ainigmaris Thales

          BWAHAHAHA! HOLY SHIT THAT IS AWESOME

        • bem

          you MUST open up comments on this…

          • Jim Johnson

            I agree, like ROK is infected with Kratom, we need a dedicated vault for Kersey’s aids.

      • Boothe

        I suspect that once you are in the advanced stages of AIDS “getting it up” is probably the last thing on your mind. 😂

        • UnreconstructedConfederate

          BAM! Most excellent,sir!

    • UnreconstructedConfederate

      I actually started off reading this foolishness with an open mind, I should have known better. You’re still a moron and you’ve already promised before to go away so, don’t go away mad just, go away.
      PS- if you came here and at least attempted to not be a thin skinned moron nobody would bother you but, as it is FO.

      • Mr Kersey

        Your comment is the same as the Confederacy is: non-sensical and irrelevant.

        • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

          Your comment is the same as the Confederacy is: non-sensical and irrelevant.

          • Mr Kersey

            I am deleting the comments soon: hurry up if you want to save them…

            • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

              I am deleting the comments soon: hurry up if you want tot save them…because I have AIDS

              • Jak

                He’ll be back. I give it 1-2 weeks.

                • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

                  Oh, I know. Thing is, last time he was here I missed all of the comments, so I’m doing a solid for our absentee brothers here.

                • UnreconstructedConfederate

                  Yeah he’s made promises before that he didn’t keep…

                • Mr Kersey

                  Nope. I am bailing in about 30 minutes. I am deleting my account and not going to come back.
                  I know, for these guys, every new commenter will be just “kersey in disguise”.

                  • bem

                    Well, this post is all about legacy……

                  • Murdoc34

                    That’s just hope and optimism. It doubles the comment post count when it really is you.

                    • Mr Kersey

                      There aren’t going to be any more “kersey sightings” on this site, I am afraid.

                    • bem

                      You have no reason to dislike this site or its peanut gallery.

                    • Ainigmaris Thales

                      Kersey, did you block me?

                    • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

                      There aren’t going to be any more “kersey sightings”, I am afraid I’m dying of AIDS.

                      Never fear, every year we’ll light a votive candle in your memory. Stay strong man. Stay strong.

                    • UnreconstructedConfederate

                      You promise? …..again

                  • Jak

                    You’ll excuse me if I’m a little skeptical of your claim to never return. Your history shows otherwise.

                    • Jim Johnson

                      It is an addiction, the oxytocin and aids is going to his brain. He’ll be back.

                  • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

                    Nope. I am bailing in about 30 minutes. I am deleting my account and not going to come back. I know, for these guys, every new commenter will be just “kersey in disguise”. You will be able to tell it’s not me though, because the posts won’t have HIV in them.

                    Given your low white blood cell count I am amazed that you have the strength to type even these posts.

        • UnreconstructedConfederate

          YOU are the same as the Confederacy- non-sensical and irrelevant.

          • bem

            I’ll confederate YOU!!!

            • UnreconstructedConfederate

              In Confederate states, AIDS will find Kersey.

    • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

      Hey, serious question. Have you ever been a part of a musical group? Like in high school or college or anything?

      Also curious, have you ever had major surgery in a hospital?

      • Mr Kersey

        You would need a major surgery if you ever come near me.

        • UnreconstructedConfederate

          Nobody wants to fight you because they will catch AIDS.

          • Mr Kersey

            Or cannot afford a ticket to Europe..
            or don’t even have a passport.
            etc.etc.

            • UnreconstructedConfederate

              WTF is wrong with you man? I mean really?….damn

              • Ainigmaris Thales

                It’s the AIDS. It’s riddled his brain. With AIDS.

            • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

              Or cannot afford a ticket to Europe..
              or don’t even have a passport.
              or don’t have AIDS
              etc.etc.

          • Ainigmaris Thales

            Do you consider yourself a “hardcore racist lunatic”? I have seen very little to suggest you are hardcore, racist, or lunaticy.

            • Jak

              And I don’t think I’ve ever “encouraged” my readers to make racist comments. If someone’s got a screenshot, help me out here.

              • Ainigmaris Thales

                Hey, I’m safe. I have conclusively proved that I am not racist. That shit will hold up in a court of law.

              • UnreconstructedConfederate

                I’ve made it this far and even JJBird hasn’t called me a racist so I think I’m doing well.

                • Ainigmaris Thales

                  Have you ever had sex with a half Puerto Rican chick?

                  • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

                    Yeah, but she made me promise never to tell you….

                    …Oh, wait…

                  • UnreconstructedConfederate

                    No but, I’m willing to learn.

                    • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

                      The hard part is getting the bandsaw placed just right that you make a straight cut down the middle of her, leaving both halves equally proportioned.

                    • UnreconstructedConfederate

                      I just figured I would break her open like double barreled shotgun.

            • UnreconstructedConfederate

              I’m not sure, I used to watch hardcore porn, does that count? Lunatic?, probably…

        • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

          You would need a major surgery if you ever come near me…and HIV medication

          They are serious questions.

          Help me out here man.

          • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

            Damn. I was curious if he was brought out of the hospital on a wheel chair as is standard practice.

            This information is vital, I need to determine if he has band aids, roll aids, or both!

    • cheeseburgercheeseburger

      you have no sense of humor, but this is a solid post.

      • Ainigmaris Thales

        FFS, cheese.

        • cheeseburgercheeseburger

          cmon, he’ll wake up eventually(or be the guy knocking on our door at some point)

          • Ainigmaris Thales

            Never gonna happen.

          • UnreconstructedConfederate

            He going to be the guy shooting up a Wal-Mart or something.

            • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

              They’re renaming themselves. He’ll be shooting a WalMart Inc., if he does it after January.

              • UnreconstructedConfederate

                They’re probably changing the name so he can’t find the place.

                • Jak

                  If I had coffee right now, I woulda spit it out.

                • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

                  They saw what happened to Rite AID(s)

      • bem

        thats the shame of it – there’s SOMETHING there, burried under all the crazy.

        • Ainigmaris Thales

          There is no there there. He is a nutbag.

        • UnreconstructedConfederate

          What he said ….. I was going to put one of those cool arrow thingys pointing down but there ain’t one.

      • I rely on my sense of humor since I went blind from aids

    • Jim Johnson

      Dammit I wish you posted here like an hour ago, I got to go to a meeting. GOJ, good work on copying his comments.

      • Murdoc34

        Oh, and who is the guy that wanted the text message alerts? Anyone got his cell number?

        • Jak

          Think it was Lou Skunt who wanted them. He’s going to be so disappointed, but hey, I told him to get me his credit card and social security numbers and I’d hook him up! This is on him.

          • Iattacku

            Dammit I missed Kersey

            • Jak

              He called some of us out personally. Apparently, I’m a racist enabler who encourages my readers to make racist comments.
              And according to him, you should be highly offended by all the racist activity going on here, seeing as you’re a black guy (his words, not mine).

              • bem

                like you dont CRAVE the attention….

            • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

              I archived *literally* (Hitler) every one of his comments. Enjoy!

              • Jak

                I think a lot of them went away when he deleted his post.

                • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

                  No, I blockquoted them into my posts, so they remain. I just refrehsed and they are there, sparkly new and with that fresh AIDS smell to them.

                  • Jak

                    Hmmm, I’m not seeing a lot of them.

                    • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

                      I just looked at every one. Once you “blockquote” stuff sticks, it’s not linked to the original posts.

                • bem

                  they should be archived on “his” website

                  • Jak

                    Dollars to donuts that 1 of the first 3 posts he makes on his site is about us.

                    • Hey, more traffic our way!

                    • Murdoc34

                      Because the mixed-blood Ukrainian-Hatian AIDS-infeceted demographic is quite large.

                    • Ainigmaris Thales

                      Yuge, Bigly.

              • Iattacku

                Where do I go to see your archive

                • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

                  Dude, right here on the thread. I blockquoted him, every post.

                  • Iattacku

                    about half of the guys he mentioned dont even comment on this site.

            • Ainigmaris Thales

              He questioned your blackness.

              • Jak

                Wait, was Kersey calling lattacku an Uncle Tom?! Shit…and WE’RE the racists???

                • Ainigmaris Thales

                  From Kersey’s original post:

                  “As for Lattacku – you claim to be an Africa-American yet you still hang around here after all racial slurs and racist jokes. You might not be an African-American at all.”

              • Iattacku

                i guess i’m not black according to kersey.

                • bem

                  not black ENOUGH.

                • Jak
                • cheeseburgercheeseburger

                  always thought you were a honkey like me. gonna have to block you now

                • Jim Johnson

                  I always took you for a pudgy Asian guy.

            • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

              Make sure to use the parallax adjustment on your scope the next time.

            • UnreconstructedConfederate

              You need to lead him a little more.

            • John Galt

              He mentioned you personally. Lucky!

              • Jak

                He didn’t call out J.Nyx or Cynic. I’m apparently the only worthy site owner.

                • John Galt

                  Sorry. Who are you again?

                • Murdoc34

                  You’re attempting to find something logical and consistent?

              • Iattacku

                i feel popular now

                • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

                  You, Naiven Johnson, are somebody!

          • I will txt Lou

            • Jak

              Be sure to get his SSN and CC numbers. This shit ain’t cheap!

          • Lou Skunt

            I missed him again??? Come on, we really need to set-up a system here.

      • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

        Pas de quois, monsieur.

  • So I have aids

  • Old Goat

    My father passed away recently, which has led to me inheriting property that he owned. Going through things at these houses has introduced me to photos and heirlooms from relatives I barley remember and some I’ve never met. Family, legacy, heritage, stuff like that has never meant anything to me until his passing. My family life growing up was well beyond dysfunctional, which fucked me up for a large part of my life. My father was a flawed man like anyone else, I’m not going to try to paint him as anything special. But, through his hard work & intelligence he left a fortune to me. Me, my kids, & possibly their kids are set for any unexpected problems that may arise. In a way he left me piece of mind from the need to be a wage slave, & time to be there for my daughter while she’s growing up.

    When it comes to leaving a legacy I don’t think we all have the ability to change the world & be remembered in a grandiose way. My father left his legacy on me & his friends by being someone that was always there to lend a helping hand when needed, & always giving much more than he received to people that he cared about. It might not get his named etched in the history books, but I will make sure that his name is remembered & shared with my daughter and anyone else that benefits from what he has left behind.

    • Jim Johnson

      Maybe you could try shooting up a bunch of people like that guy in Las Vegas……what was his name?

      • Ainigmaris Thales

        Hey, no one is allowed to talk about that. It was only the largest mass shooting in US history. So we can’t have any news reporting on it or any follow up on all of the weird things that happened with it.

        • cheeseburgercheeseburger

          how many “survivors” have died since then? 12??

          • Ainigmaris Thales

            I wouldn’t know. It’s never reported in the news. It’s almost creepy how little the news talks about anything having to do with the shooting.

            • Jim Johnson

              Clearly illegal weapons go against the narrative.

              • Ainigmaris Thales

                Were the weapons illegal? I thought they were all legally purchased. Would be really nice if some journalist did a story about it so we would know… but I guess they are too busy fainting over every Trump tweet.

        • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

          I’m the opposite of conspiratorially minded, and the silence on this is utterly deafening. Now even I am wondering “WTF?”

        • John Galt

          That is an eerie point. I assume just beneath the thin media surface, some uncomfortable facts about a disgruntled democrat will arrive. Cannot have that. Goes against the narrative.

    • cheeseburgercheeseburger

      you gotta go balls-deep into bitcoin!

      • John Galt

        That would be like buying IT shares in 1999. Let that bubble pop without your money.

        • cheeseburgercheeseburger

          I kid, I kid

    • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

      Condolences regarding your father.

  • Iattacku

    OT: Props to Matt forney for a decent article.

    http://www.returnofkings.com/140063/why-net-neutrality-is-an-unnecessary-fraud
    On topic:
    Great article jak

    • It’s wrong, but not in the way that most are arguing against it. Forney simply has too much faith that the free market will keep the ISPs from not jumping into the censorship game alongside the rest of the Internet infrastructure. What is needed is a wholesale law (not a stupid FCC regulation) limiting the ability of private Internet infrastructure providers (ISPs, DNS registrars, etc) to ban people solely on their speech content.

      • Jim Johnson

        I would agree, the internet infrastructure is conglomerating just like ABC/NBC/TIME Warner/Disney

      • Sir Lee

        there is already the precedent set with the Telephone compaines

      • Ainigmaris Thales

        The thing is, the government is not going to make it better. Whatever they do, they are going to end up making it worse. The government is even easier for corporations to manipulate than the market. Bog corporations push for government intervention into things like this because they know they can get the government to write the rules to favor them.

        • Jim Johnson

          Instead of corporate income tax, they need to tax on the corporations share of the market. Disney owns like 40 percent of the televised media market, they should be taxed at 40%, that would give the smaller business a leg up, and reduce the desire of large corporations to conglomerate.

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