The Easiest Way to Hard Boil Eggs

hard boiled egg

Good Morning Gentlemen.  I have a short, but hopefully worthwhile article for you all on a new technique I’ve found for hard boiled eggs.  As most of you are aware, eggs are a fantastic food that not only tastes great, but also has a plethora of vitamins and minerals.  I’m not going to spend much more time on the health benefits of eggs other than the fact you should be eating them regularly.

So what piqued my interest on making hard boiled eggs in the first place?  Simply put, efficiency.  As some of you may know, I have my 6th Degree Taekwondo testing taking place in a little under a month and it’s crunch time getting everything prepared.

As such, I don’t want to focus much on meal prep and long, grueling workouts, opting instead for practicing my forms and making sure all my other requirements for testing are met.

I knew I’d need to clean up my diet and decided hard boiled eggs were a healthy and easy meal that I could prep in advance.

The problem is, I don’t have much luck actually making hard boiled eggs.  I can never seem to get the boiling time right or the a few of the eggs will crack in the water, leaving a mess that I’ll have to clean up.

Undeterred, I set forth looking for an easy answer…and I found it!

Hard Baked Eggs

Do not adjust your screen.  You read that correctly.

Instead of boiling your eggs in water on top of the stove, adjust your focus a few feet down and put them in the oven instead.  This method is insanely simple and foolproof.

All you will need is a muffin tin, some eggs, something to grab the eggs once they’ve been baked, and a bucket of ice water.

Set the oven between 325-350 degrees.  I typically set mine at 335 degrees because I figured it’d be best just to split the difference.  Now the original instructions I read said to bake them for 30 minutes and that’s fine, but I’m actually testing my results baking them a bit less, around 27-28 minutes.

The reason for this is because one issue that comes up with baking is the heat can cause discolorations on the shell.  This doesn’t hurt anything,  but the dry heat of the oven can also burn through the shell and cause small burn marks on the actual egg.  Again, small burn marks on the egg white doesn’t really affect the flavor or anything, but I want pristine hard boiled (baked) eggs dammit!

If you do have some small burn marks on the egg, you can simply pinch them off with your fingers.

Once your eggs are done backing, throw them in the ice bath until they’re cooled and either wolf them down now or save them for later.

The best news is, there’s zero cleanup!  Simply put the muffin tin away and pour out the ice bath into the sink and you’re done.

Finally, one curious thing I found is that the hard baked eggs actually peel a bit easier as well.  Why?  Who knows, but I won’t look a gift horse in the mouth.


Author: Jak

Jak, married and father of three, seeks to help the Red-Pill Community take its next step past the petty cynicism and ineffectual anger. While he recognizes that men are significantly handicapped by the modern legal system and culture, he doesn't accept that traditional marriage is untenable in today's social climate. Rather, men must be willing to adapt to this new world by implementing new tactics and approaches to maintaining a balance of power. Jak is here to provide you with these lessons.

382 thoughts on “The Easiest Way to Hard Boil Eggs”

    1. There’s only one thing we can do to salvage the day. Tear it apart.

      Set the oven between 325-350 degrees. I typically set mine at 335 degrees because I figured it’d be best just to split the difference.

      Technically, splitting the difference should be 337.5.

        1. Set the oven between 325-350 degrees.

          Fahrenheit or Celsius? Either Americans will dangerously under-cook their eggs, or Non-Americans will dangerously overcook their eggs.

                1. Ooooh, now you have him walking on egg shells. Be careful, or he’ll crack, and I’m not yolking!

                    1. I decided this Christmas to serve eggs Benedict on hub caps when I was entertaining people. After all, there’s no place like chrome for the Hollandaise.

                    2. I’m a deep discount joke teller, and as always, you get what you pay for.

          1. and then the media will be whipped into a frenzy over it, and big pharma will turn out a vax in record time

  1. Well, I say yes. There’s more protein potential in hard baked eggs than anything else we’re looking at. Now if we don’t get into it, somebody else will. Maybe one of the major bodybuilders, maybe all of them. Now with the muscle they build, they can buy more protein powder and creatine; then they come after us. Now we have the grilled chicken, we have the steak; an’ they’re the best things to have. But hard baked eggs are the thing of the future. An’ if we don’t get a piece of that action, we risk all the gains we have — I mean not now, but ah ten years from now.

    1. I also don’t believe in eggwhites. For years I paid my people extra so they wouldn’t do those kinds of omelettes
      Somebody comes to them and says, “I have powders; if you throw out the yolks, its better for your heart

      So they can’t resist.

      I want to control eggs as a business, to keep it respectable!
      I don’t want them eaten cold, I don’t want eggwhite omelettes in the diner!

      That’s an infamia.
      In my city, we would keep the traffic among the faggots– the yuppies.

      They’re animals anyway, so let them lose their souls…

      1. There was this kid I grew up with — he was younger than me. Sorta looked up to me — you know. We did our first work together — scrambled our way out of the street.Things were sunny side up, we made the most of it. During the pancake trend– we ran molasses into IHOP– made a fortune — you father, too. As much as anyone,I loved him — and trusted him. Later on he had an idea — to build a breakfast out of a piece of toast with a hole in it and an egg cracked in that hole. That kid’s name was Guy Kibbee — and the breakfast he invented was called eggs in a basket. This was a great man — a man of vision and guts. And there isn’t even a plaque — or a signpost — or special named after him in a diner! Someone put a bullet through his eye. No one knows who gave the order — when I heard it, I wasn’t angry; I knew Guy– I knew he was head-strong, talking loud, saying stupid things. So when he turned up dead — I let it go. And I said to myself, this is the breakfast we’ve chosen — I didn’t ask who gave the order — because it had nothing to do with business!

        1. WB, you’ve got it wrong. That kind of thing’s all over, I told you. This was between the two brothers. Years ago Guy Kibbee had a young girlfriend; he called her his co-wife. That was his joke, but he meant it. He wouldn’t divorce his wife… because she was a great cook. He said he girlfriend made a omelette once and it was so terrible he knew he could never marry her. He set her up in a house in New York. She had to be faithful… and she had to have kids. And she did, two, a boy and a girl. He had her checked out and watched so she couldn’t cheat… but the girl couldn’t stand that kind of life. She begged him to let her go. He did. He gave her money and made her give up the kids. Then Guy Kibbee took them to France, and had them brought up by his brother Milton. Where he knew they’d by safe.

    2. WBFitness, I need a man who has bodybuilding friends. I need 10,000 in calories. I need, WBFitness, those experts you carry in your pocket, like so many protein snacks.

    1. As most of you are aware, socks are a fantastic piece of clothing that not only keep your feet warm, but also prevent foot infections such as athletes foot. I’m not going to spend much more time on the benefits of socks..

      1. all the OG commenters are gone. uncle bob seems to have left the building too. I need super bowl advice

            1. This fat slob’s still bettin’ the Eagles pretty heavy? You tell ’em to stop takin’ action on ’em,
              We lost enough money last week on the game…

                  1. we should put ya on waivers…I know youll clear…youll be free to shitpost with any other major league website then

              1. You better hope the eagles lose or they are going to burn all of philadelphia to the ground if they win. Then again they will burn it down if the lose so you may want to leave town for the weekend

                1. The hard part would be telling pre-burn down Philly from post burn down Philly.

                2. Philly = shithole. after the Eagles won last week, guy got arrested for punching a horse

                  1. To be fair, the horse was putting his hoof in inappropriate and uncomfortable places.

                  1. I got a job offer out of college that was in philly. Thought about and said why the fuck would i want to live in philly

                    1. 2008. To be fair it was in KOP. But still too close to philly. Im a hour north of philly now

                    2. O. If it was earlier you could have cleaned up in real estate. I have no regrets staying here since 97. Hour north? Are you a farmer?

                    3. No, those were the Double Mint Twins from the gum commercial. They got gang-banged by 20 muslims dudes in the back of an airplane. Or something like that.

                    4. Legend has it that there are two cities on either side of the Mississippi River somewhere in a place alleged called “Minnesota” which is apparently one of the 57 states. These cities are supposedly called “Minneapolis” and “St. Paul” or some shit. But I’m pretty sure this is all a bunch of bullshit.

                    5. That is true. This map goes into excruciating detail. Just like how new york city is a system of boroughs and neighborhoods collectively known as NYC, this is the minutiae which deals with the specifics of Deliverance

                    6. i don’t even get why they called that one nazis.

                      It’s really funny, but true….on a map with no names I can successfully name exactly 5 states with any kind of confidence.

                    7. Just terrible…
                      For a goof (its too late now) try to draw a map of the us BY MEMORY and see how stupid you are. Its amazing how bad I still am at this.

                    8. I really wouldn’t even try.

                      I can recognize texas because it is really big and kinda sticks out, florida because its americas wang and bugs bunny cut it off, california because its all the way left, new jersey because i’ve seen enough license plates and commercials and new york because it is the only place that matters. Everything else, absolutely every other state, i would have to guess. Some guesses might be better than others but it is pure speculation on my part.

                    9. like asking someone in a 5 star restaurant where the closest mcdonalds is

                      During my time in Cape May, I was asked once where the nearest Red Lobster was. Will never forget that.

                    10. Whenever I see someone in town here going into a chain restaurant or coffee joint I want to slam their nuts in the car door.

                    11. Ha.

                      After pointing out there were at least a dozen wonderful seafood restaurants in town, several of which we could actually see from where we were standing and within walking distance, it might as well had been PA. The closest one was at the Hamilton Mall, about an hour and a quarter north.

                    12. Yeah hamilton mall and get on ac express way and gtfo. I grew up in cape may court house. But now i come down as a shoobie

                    13. I just did a self test on an unmarked map of the U.S. and could do all of the states from West to East, until I got to New York and had to look at the rest of New England proper and I can get some of those too but a few I stumbled on because they’re so small and I rarely paid attention to them when looking at maps in the past (they always bunch up the names to the right so I don’t have a name-to-shape memory embedded in my brain I guess). So in effect I’d say I got a good 45 out of 50, which I’m feeling pretty good about. Capitols are another story, but I can name quite a few of those too, but not nearly as many as just “states” alone.

                      As to visiting, I need to count up how many I’ve stopped and stayed at least one night in, but it’s a fairly high count I can tell you right off the bat. It’s a big, beautiful country, I love everything about it (except the really scary crime ridden parts).

                    14. All kidding aside I can identify them all with ease. I attribute this “skill” to a jigsaw puzzle I had as a kid with all the states as peices. That and a weird propensity to pore over maps and atlases for hours on end.

                    15. I used to be able to for the same reason, plus it being drilled into our heads in school at the time (imagine that, studying geography…in school!). Now, not so much. I avoid New England like the plague and have for decades now (except one trip to New Jersey, Cape May about 14 ish years ago). This means that I don’t ride to or through there either, so I guess I just lost the reference points in my mind.

                    16. Lots of Nazis in northern Idaho. Not sure why they congregated there, perhaps they figured it is one of the most predominantly white areas.

                    17. I didn’t know that. Do you mean like actual nazis, like the guys who escaped, ditched their uniforms and split (if so, they weren’t the bright ones as the climate in argentina is much nicer) or do you mean like morons with shaved heads yelling white power?

                    18. Morons with shaved heads. It’s a pity because northern Idaho has some of the prettiest scenery around.

                    19. Southern Idaho (Snake River Valley) is potatoes Central Idaho is pretty much wilderness. I’ve hiked to lakes there where there is no sign of man, like not a trail, a piece of garbage, footprint, or campfire ring. Like defiling a virgin.

                    20. You know you got to stop them at the beginning, like they should have stopped Hitler at Munich, They should never’ve let him get away with that. They were just asking for big trouble.

                    21. I believe in Philadelphia. Philadelphia has made my fortune. And I raised my daughter
                      in the Philadelphia fashion.

                    22. That’s good to know. Are they filling out forms? Standing in line? Tell me, do you spend your weekends on the Jersey shore?

                    23. It’s no loss, it was just another self important whine fest from Billy Joel. I like some of his songs and he has some great talent, but the fucker could get way too stupid in some of his songs, like he thought he spoke for the entire nation at the time or something. But still, some of his work is amazing.

                    24. Something to break up the increasingly repetitive quoting of the Godfather franchise. We’re getting the same quotes on every thread a lot more often it seems. Throwing in Billy Joel just seemed like a nice pallet cleanse.

                    25. Cool, central bucks is a nice area. I used to hang out in Doylestown when my buddy lived near there.

                      They have poured a lot of money into allentown and the downtown is not nearly as bad as it was 10 yeats ago.

                1. But you know the trolls are havin’ a good time with our policy banks up there
                  on AKC drivin’ them new Cadillacs — payin’ fifty percent on a bet.

          1. Not watching the Super Bowl this year. I’ve been totally uninterested in the NFL all year, and have other plans for Super Bowl Sunday. Feels good man.

              1. You’ll know the game is over once the shooting resumes. You’ll know the winner by the presence or absence of fire.

                1. It’ll get pretty goddamn bad. Probably all the other sportsball fans will line up against us.

                  That’s alright this thing’s gotta happen every five years or so — ten years — helps to
                  get rid of the bad blood. Been ten years since the last one.
                  You know you got to stop them at the beginning like they should have stopped BLM at City Hall, They should never’ve let them get away with that. They were just asking for big trouble. You know,

                  Murdoc, we was all proud of you, leaving Jersey and all. Your father, too.

              1. Halftime shows have become nothing but pillars for SJW activism. Haven’t seen a Super Bowl in I cannot remember how long. The halftime vids I see online are enough to tell me that I want no part of that crap.

                  1. Right, but, c’mon….Black Eyed Peas….you didn’t know walking in that it would be a disaster?

                    1. But this was on a completely different level. Their stage props didn’t work right and they strutted around just making fools of themselves. It was one of those acts where they believed they didn’t really need to sing their songs and could just make it by on their hype by singing a line or two and then yelling “c’mon! sing the next part!” to the audience.

                    2. I think you can mark the beginning of the decline of the NFL right about the time that the halftime shows and the commercials became more important than the actual game of the Super Bowl. Especially as they started extending the halftime longer, chopping up the game time even more than usual to add in more commercials, etc.

                    3. These are wonderful things that we’ve achieved with the NFL and there’s no limit to where we can go from here. This kind of corporation knows how to stroke SJWs…to encourage them — the shows here are bigger and stupider than anything on Buzzfeed and we can
                      thank our friends in the DNC , which has put up half of the cash with Soros on a sheckle for sheckle basis and has relaxed restrictions on fact-checking.

                      What I am saying now is we have what we have always needed: real partnership with the Infotainment Complex.

        1. I enjoy watching football in the afternoon, one
          of the things I enjoy about this country; baseball, too. I’ve loved
          baseball ever since Arnold Rothstein fixed the World Series in 1919.

  2. the later you get these articles up, the more time I spend on more depressing sites like zerohedge
    headline: “Sweden Hell: Armed Migrant Teens Roaming With Kalashnikovs; Military May Be Deployed”

          1. I always wondered were all the aks and grenades they have come from. They tell the border agents it is racist to take them away on arrival as its part of their culture.

                    1. after months of parsing the data, my LongIsland Identification Authenticator 5000 has narrowed his place of origin to:
                      frankin square

                      its only a matter of time now

  3. If you have an Instant Pot pressure cooker (like me), it’s very simple.

    2 cups of water
    12 eggs

    Select “steam” for 6 minutes.

    Perfect hard boiled eggs where the shell practically falls off when you make the first crack.

    I cannot recommend the Instant Pot enough. One of the best things I ever bought for my kitchen.

    1. Jim Johnson also suggests pressure cooker. Can you link to one you have had good luck with.
      I don’t want the top exploding, badabing, all over my nice ivy league suit

              1. No, you are just to small-minded and stupid to comprehend his genius. The intellectual prowess of Biz Markie is so far beyond our comprehension that it stretches beyond the confines of the English language, making it almost impossible for him to communicate his true genius to us mere mortals.


        It’s not cheap, but that is the exact one I bought. It was $99. They usually have a sale around Thanksgiving for $70 I think.

        I use mine constantly now. Soup, stew, rice, hard boiled eggs…the list goes on. There’s a number of videos on youtube on making all kinds of stuff in it like spaghetti, etc.

        You can use it as a slow cooker if you want, rice maker, steamer, etc.

        1. I just got a pressure cooker and used it this week to make flank steak stuffed with spinach and cheese. Works like a dream.

          1. “Works like a dream.”

            So you put the food in it and then are felated by teenage sisters while laying on your own private yacht? Or is that just how my dreams work?

  4. If you don’t mind a little eggstra clean-up, oil up that muffin tin, crack those eggs, add a few spinach leaves and a couple nuggets of feta. Sometimes I do a large batch of these and vacuum seal them 3 or 4 to a bag. They freeze well; reheat by boiling them in bag for a hot tasty breakfast with no work, no mess.

    1. Microwaving live cats though, we’re still good there right?

            1. Nothing beats a nice portion of Moo Goo Gai Fluffy over steamed rice on a cold winter’s evening.

    2. Come over here, kid, learn something. You never know, you might have to cook for twenty trolls someday. You see, you start out with a little bit of oil. Then you fry some eggs. Then you throw in some butter, and a couple more eggs, you fry it; ya makesure it doesn’t stick. You get it to a boil; you shove in all your eggs and a couple eggs; heh?…

      And a little bit o’ butter. An’ a little bit o’ egg,
      and that’s my trick.

            1. Someone once asked me to tutor them in calculus. I said “listen – I never said I knew it, I said I got through it”
              Required to take I and II, had to do both twice…..

                    1. never liked that saying. Have you seen the Michelin Pilot Super Sports that they put on the Ferrari 458 Italia? I mean, those guys totally reinvented the wheel.


        1. You goddamn mods really make me laugh — I do you a favor give you comment count when you’re having a bad time, and then you try to push me out!?!?!

          1. Lookit here son, I say son, did ya see that comment J.Nyx a done said? You annoyed’em! That Godfather quote done gone as lame as an old dog.
            That’s a joke, son. You’re built too low. The fast jokes go over your head. I keep pitchin’ ’em and you keep missin’ ’em. Ya gotta keep your eye on the proverbial ball.
            Eye. Ball. I almost had a gag, son. Joke, that is.

        2. I also don’t believe in quotes. For years I paid my people extra so they wouldn’t do that kind
          of business. Somebody comes to them and says, “I have references; if you put up three, four thousand on each post — we can make fifty thousand hicks lose their mind.” So they can’t resist. I want to control it as a business, to keep it respectable. I don’t want it out of context– I don’t want it with bad line breaks! That’s an infamia. In my city, we would keep the quotes to annoy the dim people — the hillbillys. They’re animals anyway, so let them lose their souls…

      1. I’ve seen it before.
        Is it supposed to feel good or something.
        I just didn’t get the point of it.

  5. HAITI UPDATE…. Unfortunately, the Shithole-A-Tron 9000 is down. I forgot to feed the hamsters that power it last night, so they went on strike this morning. I’m in negotiations with their little hamster union boss, but he’s really playing hardball with me. Gonna have to lay out some serious coin to round up some little hamster whores and hamster blow for the little bastards.

    But all indications are that Haiti is still a giant stinking shithole.

      1. Are you suggesting that daily updates on the shithole status of Haiti are unnecessary, redundant, infantile and a giant waste of time and energy?

        1. Well, seeing as how you’ve got nothing else to do. And your entire life is a waste, then no, its not a giant waste of time.
          It is slightly funny.

      1. let me be even more frank, just to show you that I’m not a hard-boiled man, and it’s not all shells and yolks. Poached eggs are beautiful; they are gooey, they are delicious. She was the greatest piece of breakfast I ever had, and I had’em all over the world!

  6. 9 healthy chickens, averaging 7 eggs a day, and we buy a five dozen carton about every two weeks. 160 eggs every two weeks for eight people, or 1.4 eggs per day per person.

      1. for about 3 years, they take about 8 months before they start laying, they are good layers for the first year than taper off. We accidentally killed our chickens when we moved, so these are all young ones.

                1. I could have sworn there was some weird disease that chicken farmers get from being around too many chickens for too long, like really fucked up shit. Maybe I saw that in a movie. Or in a dream.

                  1. I don’t know any specific but being around all the chicken shit and dust they kick up has to have some long term effects.

                  2. The big issue with chickens is Salmonella. If you get chicken manure on your hands, the eggs or meat and ingest it, plan on pure misery. The one wicked airborne feces realated disease I know of is the Hanta virus. But that is spread by rodents. But I cannot imagine that breathing the dust from chicken manure can be good for you.

                    1. I new a guy who let his son use an abandoned warehouse of his for some art project. Place was covered in bat shit. The kid fell ill with flu-like symptoms, was dead in a week. Hanta virus.

                    2. Look the CDC guys promised me a deal. So I made up a lot of stuff about
                      Hanta Virus ’cause that’s what they wanted, but it was all lies – everything. And I kept saying — Hanta Virus did this and Hanta Virus
                      did that, so I said yea sure, why not.

                    3. I think it would be a great newspaper headline if St. Nicolas died from that while drinking a third tier soda pop.

                      Santa Drinks Fanta and Dies of Hanta!

                    4. Look the CDC guys promised me a deal. So I made up a lot of stuff about the Handa Virus ’cause that’swhat they wanted — but it was all lies — uh — everything. And I kept saying — Hanta Virus did this and Hanta VIrus did that — .uh — so I said yea sure, why not.

            1. That may have been Chlamydiosis. It occurs in over 100 bird species and can be transmitted through the dust of dried avian feces.

          1. Nah, I told my daughter to water and move the pen so it would be in the shade before we went to church. (We had them in a portable dog kennel) Didn’t happen. We come back and six chickens were dead from heat stroke. At least she felt bad about it.

        1. What breed chicken do you have?

          Last year I had some chickens for a while. They were 3 year old Australorps. Out of 7 chickens I got an average of 5 to 6 eggs a day, even at that age. Best part was they were free because the person wanted to clear out the older hens.

      2. how long does it produce eggs for? why did it cross the road? Jesus, just let the chickens be and stop asking so many questions. The chicken’s motives are none of your fuckin’ business

  7. We have about 40 chickens and I eat about 4 – 6 eggs a day. Baking them is an interesting option and I will try it. I have boiled a lot of farm fresh brown eggs, I like them to come out pristine and they can be difficult to peel.

    My recipe for hard boiled eggs is as follows: Bring your water to a boil. Add two tablespoons of salt. Then gently place the eggs in to boil (use tongs to avoid cracking them). Cover and boil on medium heat for 15 minutes. Immediately remove them and chill them in cold water. Then crack both ends on the counter and roll the egg back and forth, gently crushing the shell. They usually peel very easily and there won’t be any dark discoloration around the yolk.

  8. *lights small black candle*

    Oh spirit of those lost to AIDS, I beseech thee!
    Oh souls of those who died of mud cookie poisoning, I beeseech you!
    Come to me, ye demons of Haiti and Ukraine, come at my summons!
    I command thee, spirit of he who changes his screenname and deletes all of his shit after posting, come to me!
    Hakita slakmata chembotcha!

    *snuffs out small black candle, because racism*

      1. I never could stand that elf loving, reindeer oppressing fat man.

      1. I’d lay solid feed money on the fact that the author himself is likely a cuck just trying to justify his lack of masculinity in public while he let’s his girl fuck other men behind closed doors. Anybody would be a fool to take me up on that bet.

        1. I would just assume the author takes D himself. Nobody respects a cuck. He might as well off himself and take his ho with him on the way out.

    1. Fucking depraved shit right there.

      The only kind of threesome that is ever ok, is FMF (two chicks focusing on one guy). Everything else is honestly, really fucking weird. So to speak.

    2. They’re attempting to rationalize cuckolding? Ha. It means the insults and the judgement (“men they view as spineless and emasculated”) is bothering them. This, in turn, suggests said judgement is correct, and they know it.

      1. The article explicitly points out that the alt-right uses it as an insult, so the odds of you being correct are between 100% and 110%. They’re feeling the sting.

        1. Second time in as many weeks where I’ve exceeded 100% certainty. Feeling pretty good about everything right now.

    3. Hypothetica just because fuck it im bored.

      Who is in the worse position
      1) A guy who is in a happy marriage, but relies on sexual depravity like cuckold fantasies for his (and his woman’s) sexual needs

      2) A guy who finds out that his seemingly good wife has been getting dicked out by some guy at work for years

      Either way the wife is getting some extra dick. In option one you are a sexual deviant, but happy with your relationship as is the woman. In option the wife is taking some hard pipe from a stranger as well, but you are a miserable loser and both you and your wife are unhappy

        1. Not saying either option is desirable, but given the choice which would you pick? To be a sexual wierdo married to another sexual weirdo with a happy marriage or to be some guy who kisses his wife goodnight without knowing she just swallowed a load from in the office when she had to stay at work late a few hours earlier?

          1. Its a tough question, but I think I would have to choose the second scenario. Because I would at least be able to have a measure of self-respect for myself in scenario 2. Yes, I would feel like shit — part of her cheating and me not figuring it out would be on me, but most of it would be on her being a stupid slut. I could move on with my life, put it behind me and still look myself in the mirror.

            With scenario 1, you’d just be a fucking deviant half-fag little bitch.

      1. happy marriage, [with] cuckold fantasies

        Can’t answer the question because I’m getting hung up on the definition of the word ‘happy’ or the word ‘marriage’.

        1. I am willing to acknowledge that there are some broken people who have really fucked up fetishes that make them happy and it is possible for two of them to come together, get married and make one another happy. There are men who legit like this shit. Women two. Put two of them who have other things in common together..sure, there is a hypothetical scenario where I can see a happy marriage between two very broken people where this is their playtime activity.

          1. I’d suppose so long as he doesn’t just think he is happy, but he actually is happy, then there isn’t anything wrong with scenario #1 at all.

            1. That’s what i am thinking. I mean, I don’t know if it is possible, but I think so. i mean a guy like me sees that and i think “oh here is some pussy beggar and a whore of a woman and she has him under his thumb” but in a scenario where he legit got off to it, so what? I mean yeah, it is weird…but shit, there is lots of weird stuff. I think that is why we instinctively balk at this but not at two chicks servicing a guy. In most of our minds, mine included, two chicks servicing one guy would mean a guy who gets whatever he wants and a woman who can’t say no and so gives it to him at the cost of her humiliation. In the other situation it is the guy who can’t say no to a woman and she is getting what she wants at the cost of his humiliation.

              But who knows, there are a lot of people out there. Maybe some incredibly small percentage of them are truly into this and if people like that find one another they could certainly be happy right?

            2. ya know, to further this i thought of a guy i used to know. He married young. Nice girl. Religious. Both of them were fresh out of high school. I knew him in his mid 20’s. He told me she didn’t give blowjobs. Just refused. She thought it was gross and wouldn’t do it. I asked him if it bothers him and he really didn’t care. Now me….ugh….that would be on the HMS NEXXXXTTTTTTT in less than 20 minutes, but it didn’t bother him.

              This fetish is obviously stranger, but it isn’t that much different. What a couples sex life is behind closed doors is no ones business and if they both are into it, have at it. It is better than finding out that the mother of your children who has been sexually cold to you has been having a train run on her for years by anyone who could give her tingles.

              I don’t know. Damned both ways. But if forced to pick the method of my damnation i will take the side that is enjoyable at least.

              1. It is taking every shred of my being to remain completely impartial and not question the man’s sanity. But just being a strange fetish doesn’t add or detract from it being a desire, associated actions, etc.. We shall take it on faith that if it is what he says he wants – be it cucking or blow jobs or whatever – it is what he truly wants.

                Given that, I felt it kind of comes down to information and control. In #1, he has the information and can choose to continue or change things or leave. Free will. Informed consent.

                1. Why are we equating a girl not giving blowjobs to a guy getting off on watching other dudes fuck his wife? Choosing to date or marry a chick who doesn’t suck your dick is kind of sad, but its a choice, not a sexual fetish. The guy who does that might be a pussy, but he is choosing to give up getting his dick sucked (by her). The cuck guy is a fucking sexual freak who gets excited seeing other guys use his wife as a fucking cumrag. That is seriously fucking deranged, no matter how “normal” and “natural” CNN tries to make it seem.

                  1. Just equating 2 people who both are into (or not into) something finding each other and being happy with it while it seems odd to others. Same with, as i mentioned above, public sex. Sure this is more extreme, but same idea.

                    If the guy honestly likes watching the chick get pipped out in front of him and the chick is into it too and it is the sexual component of an otherwise good relationship, what does it matter to anyone else?

                    I think it is bad shit insane. But I think a lot of things people like (gambling, exhibitionism, living places other than manhattan) is also insane. I don’t know. Just spit balling because i thought the topic was interesting.

                  2. Not equating.

                    It is taking every shred of my being to remain completely impartial and not question the man’s sanity.

                    Not even considering it, rather, I’m trying to frame it in a more general terms. I want A. I get A. or I want A. I get B. Which is better?

                2. true! I mean, we do have to take it on faith that the man enjoys this and is being honest about it….otherwise the hypothetical question is no fun…it is just get cheated on in front of you or get cheated on behind your back.

                  I mean, some guys and some women really enjoy sex in public places. I HATE it. Not only is in not my thing, i really do not enjoy. So If I did it with a woman because she liked it i would be unhappy. But if that woman found a guy who also liked it that would be great.

                  This really isn’t that much different.

                  1. I don’t think any guy can really legitimately “enjoy” that shit and be “happy” about it. That goes against basically every biological and social instinct that we as men have been programmed with for like 10,000+ years. I think cucks are just fucked in the head. They’re mentally deranged, like fags and trannies.

                    1. I don’t know….if that is so it ruins the question for sure. I’ve not met any guys like that. But I wouldn’t think there are guys who like getting fucked in the ass…but there they are….so what do i know.

                    2. It is an interesting question, but once you take it out of the hypothetical and put it into the real world, it falls apart. Cucks are fucked in the head. They are not just like normal people who happen to fantasize about watching their wives get fucked by the entire ’08 Lakers lineup. They might try to pretend like they are normal, but they are crazy people. Crazy. People.

                    3. No doubt. So the question is, I guess, can two people who are crazy in complimentary ways possibly find actual happiness with one another.

                      To one degree or another we are all a little crazy, no?

      2. horribly enough, I’d say the dude who’s only a cuckold by his own free will. The other guy is being cucked in the truest sense of the word. Both are an absolute shitshow though.

    4. I guess they put that up instead of “hey by the way there is proof on an assassination conspiracy WITHIN the FBI…”

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