Question Everything

question everything

The advice to question everything comes from a local radio show host who shared this lesson with his sons.  He told them to question every “fact” they were presented with and to not simply assume the person speaking was knowledgeable about what they were talking about or being truthful.

The sad fact of the matter is we live in a highly politicized world.  Every topic has political sides and if you believe Horton Heard a Who is better than the Cat in the Hat, then you are a Nazi, literally.

With everything so polarized, it is common for people to twist even simple, benign things to fit some sort of agenda.  While we grown men who have witnessed and experienced most of the tricks both sides of the political spectrum have to offer, your sons and daughters are at risk.

To be quite frank, a child or young teen simply doesn’t have the mental faculties to defend themselves against an adult bent on persuading them to believe something.  This is why the left has spent so much time and effort infiltrating and feminizing the public school systems and colleges.  Rigorous debate and the exchanging of ideas, no matter how “dangerous” they might be has fallen by the wayside to preserve feelings.

The Solution

As the title of this article suggests, you need to teach your child very early that they should question everything and no, this doesn’t excuse them to play the “Why?” game all day, every day.

Rather, encourage your children to dig deep into statements being presented to them and ask questions that try to find the truth buried deep at the bottom.

This may seem common sense to us, but you must think as a young child may think.  Young children see adults as figures of authority who know all and see all.  If an adult tells a child, with complete seriousness, that snakes live in toilets, that child will be checking his toilet very carefully every time he needs to pee.

Instill a natural curiosity into your children and help them learn to ask better questions.  These skills will serve them well in the future as well as make sure they don’t become a pushover in later years.

One Side Benefit

One final topic related to this discussion, but that didn’t really tie in well anywhere else is the subject of agreeability and annual income.  Being an agreeable person is closely tied with lower pay.  Why is this?

Quite simply, because the person doesn’t ask for the raise.  They don’t assert themselves.  They don’t ask the question “What if?” and thus resign themselves to earning less than they deserve.

A side benefit of teaching your child early to question everything is they become comfortable asking tough questions – tough for someone to answer or tough for them to ask.

Yes, the simple act of asking questions and not merely taking someone at their word lowers your agreeableness, thus making you more likely to succeed.

Who’d have thought?

Author: Jak

Jak, married and father of three, seeks to help the Red-Pill Community take its next step past the petty cynicism and ineffectual anger. While he recognizes that men are significantly handicapped by the modern legal system and culture, he doesn't accept that traditional marriage is untenable in today's social climate. Rather, men must be willing to adapt to this new world by implementing new tactics and approaches to maintaining a balance of power. Jak is here to provide you with these lessons.

668 thoughts on “Question Everything”

      1. Like anything, it is proportional to the effort you put in. Which, easily surpasses the effort those government workers put in, especially when their effort is weighed down by bureaucracy and 24 other students.

      2. Based on what?

        I think by now most of us have met homeschooled kids. While the stereotype from the early 90’s of inbred, socially inept dweebs had some merit at one point, it no longer applies. Most homeschooling these days isn’t “momma” sitting at home reading Bible verses to doe eyed little kids, rather, it’s evolved into a thriving industry where entire neighborhoods worth of kids will gather from house to house (depending on the day) and learn subjects that span the gamut and far exceed the range and depth that you’ll find in public or private schools. The kids socialize in a healthy way, are well adjusted, and do fantastic on placement tests and in college.

        1. “it’s evolved into a thriving industry where entire neighborhoods worth
          of kids will gather from house to house (depending on the day) and learn
          subjects that span the gamut and far exceed the range and depth that
          you’ll find in public or private schools”
          I’ve heard of this model, but so far only on the kindergarten level. Kind of an ad-hoc floating kindergarten free from the crap of public schools and boutique day-care outfits.

          1. My (sic) brother in law’s kids did it, through the “high school” level. It worked out great.

          2. Day-Care and Kindergarten are great for developing the child’s immune system and testing yours.

            1. Unless your kid is stuck in a class with a bunch of Haitian and Ukraine kids and gets The AIDS.

              1. I was watching 80s news broadcasts on YouTube this past weekend. In 1983 the CDC predicted that AIDS would wipe out 1 million heteros and 75% of fags by 1989. Bunch of libs and gays were rioting at the White House.

                1. I still love my response to the AIDS debate:
                  No research money should be spent on AIDS as it’s a 100% behavioral disease and we know precisely the means of which it’s spread.

                  1. Clearly they did. Homeschooling is a whole new world nowadays.

  1. I question everything on this site, except The Godfather quotes. Those are 110% verified and authentic.

    1. You know what really sucks? I watched it once when I was a kid. Then when I got into church, I stopped watching rated R films (Last one being Saving Private Ryan). I couldn’t tell you which ones are quotes or not.

      1. I learned everything I needed to know about women from Anna Karenina by Tolstoy. It told me how a hypergamous slut fucks up her life and others (Anna and Vronksy) and how happy a solid nuclear family is (Levin and Kitty) . It was written far before the 1990s .

            1. I would like to see an article on good Red Pill books, I couldn’t be the one to write it though. I forgot how to read once I finished “Danny Dunn and the Smallifying Machine”

              1. I remember something like that on ROK, but it is a still a great idea. ‘Red-Pill Book review – this week we’re looking at The Godfather, by Mario Puzzo’

                for instance…

                1. I am the type that will thumb through textbooks, journals, biographies or articles. As far as novels, I am lacking.

                  1. Crime and Punishment is another good one, however, you will be inclined to want to kill pawn shop owners and bankers after you read it.

              2. This is a good idea, but a lot of people have different ideas on what is a red pill book…forgetting the idea on how many people have a different idea on what “red pill” is in general. A lot of what passes for red pill that i see on the internet, this site included, is often just pumped up chumps living out masturbatory key board fantasy lives.

                There is also the problem of the delivery of the message. I can tell you xyz is a red pill book and you can read it and think it isn’t and we might very well both be right because our different life experiences and ways of entering the world caused different interpretation of the same source material.

                I’d rather say that it is a good red pill trait to read, read, read, read and then read some more…figuring out what is for you and not will come in time.

                Anyway, that’s my two drachma

                Side Note: In college I was in a contest for writing a philosophy rap. Kinda thing that college kids in the philo department do. I won that contest with my Plato rap. I gave my Name as WB “Dirty Drachma” Fitness

                Haven’t thought of that for years.

                1. The Great Gatsby is definitely a blue-pill book. Gatsby is the archetype of the rich guy with zero game and a horrible case of onitis. Eventually Gatsby gets killed and rich alpha guy Tom keeps the girl.

                  Hey, don’t get me wrong, I like the story, but it’s a terrible primer for how to approach women.

                    1. Precisely. Many TV shows, movies, and books -even if they are Blue-Pilled garbage- actually contain Red-Pill truths. The authors/creators can’t help themselves because if they didn’t put in the RP truths, the stories would make zero sense.

                    2. Agreed, just got to dissociate their idea of who is the bad guy or good guy. “As Good as it Gets” with Jack Nicholson is a prime example.

                    3. Kinnear is solid actor. the one when he had his idea for intermittent windshield wipers stolen by Ford was excellent. a settlement wasnt enough, he wanted an apology(and he got it along with an even bigger settlement). took 15 years

                    4. They’re called “antiheroes”. See also: Richard II or Scarface.

                      That’s why classic storytelling doesn’t use the term “good guys”. The term is “protagonists”.

                  1. Yeah, Gatsby was horrible. I had to read that in High School. There are so many like that and Lord of the Flies which were nothing but big state propaganda

                    1. I had to read Gatsby sometime in High School. I couldn’t get past the first couple of chapters. Bought the clif notes version and BS’ed the report. That book is fucking terrible and a pox on any teacher who forces their students to read it.

                    2. For my anatomy of writing class I had to read books from different genres. One of the genres was romance. Being the sci-fi gamer geek I was I didn’t know any romance novels so I choose twilight. Good lord that was the worse book I ever read. I had to stop at page 100 and write my book report from there . I got an A

                    3. To be honest, I think they gave you an A just for being dumb enough to put in the effort of reading Twilight.

                    4. Agreed. Any straight man that chooses to read Twilight for a book report shouldn’t even have to do the report to get the A.

                    5. So you didn’t HAVE to read Twilight. You CHOSE to.
                      If I was forced to read Twilight for school, I would have made sure to add in the facts that it’s a love triangle where the girl cannot decide between necrophilia and bestiality and that the main vampire guy is actually committing statutory rape since he’s over 100 years old and is bedding a girl still in high school.

                    6. That’s actually a great dilemma. If you had to choose one, gun to your head, would you go necrophilia or bestiality?

                    7. Dude, there was nothing gay in that movie at all. That was from a time long before gay even existed. Back when Tom Cruise still had seriously fucked up teeth and Patrick Swayze was a bad motherfucker.

                    8. Looks like the soc wants to rumble. Fists only, no knives or chains. On the playground at midnight.

                    9. We make children and wealth and amass land and build halls and assemble armies and give great feasts, but only one thing survives us. Reputation.

                    10. Was that from the Broadway adaptation? Because it wasn’t in the movie or the parts of the book that I read.

                    11. Big state propaganda, bro? Gatsby was written a hundred years ago and went out of print before it was resurrected in the fifties.

                  2. Sure, absolutely…but there are other ways to look at he book. Forgetting the love story you can look at Gatsby as the archtype self made man in a world where caste systems, though unofficial, were rigidly enforced. Kinda my point.

                    1. There were no rigid caste systems in 1920s America. There were class divisions, but mobility between classes was high.

                    2. Um, no. The opposite. Lots of referencing back to the 1980’s from the Left these last few weeks. Updated boilerplate I’m assuming.

                    3. What’s the opposite? I stand by my comment — in the United States, socioeconomic mobility has been declining since the 1980s. This is fact.

                    4. Nope. It became *very* easy to move up the class ladder after Reagan got elected. The 1970’s and the huge burdensome taxes placed on any wealth above that of pauper was keeping people grounded in their fields in an almost caste like way. 1980’s hit and suddenly podunk hicks from flyover could get degrees, become rich and otherwise not be stuck dirt poor on the farm.

                    5. Wow, can you quote me The Guardian next? I mean, yeah, who wouldn’t buy into that? I mean sure, those of us who lived through the era can’t really take the evidence we observed with our own lying eyes to heart, nope.

                      Yeah, like I assumed, the boilerplate has changed. Been hearing this anti 1980’s stuff pretty hard the last few weeks, I knew there had to be a change in talking points coming down from the Hivemind. (I’m aware that the article is from 2016, I’m speaking rather of the constant 1980’s whines I’m hearing from the Left on many forums recently).

                    6. Are you fucking serious? You’re saying that your ANECDOTAL evidence is superior to Carr and Wiemer’s professional use of Census Bureau data?

                      Are you really that bullheaded? Open your goddamned mind. You’re a real fucking piece of work.

                    7. Not that either of you is ALL right or ALL wrong, BUT are YOU bullheaded enough to believe that these so-called studies cannot be manipulated to prove a pre-engineered result?

                    8. When my mother was diagnosed with cancer last year, we went to a professional team of oncologists. We didn’t go to somebody who read an article on cancer once.

                      Get it?

                      (She’s fine now FYI.)

                    9. You really don’t take being opposed, on anything, very well at all, do you?

                      But yeah, I only lived it and watched society go from gloomy gray to sunny days for the nation at large, so what do I know? I mean, hey, The Atlantic, a totally unbiased source, claims otherwise, and if I’m not content to accept the Argument From Authority, then fie on me.

                    10. I would say the more ‘automatic’ flavor of upward mobility has tapered off as Mr. -bird says. That is, those cushy ‘Good Jobs’ that people were once able to settle into with the promise of a steady increase in wealth and position without a whole lot of work are few and far between.

                    11. In the sense of taking a job at a factory at 18 right out of high school and retiring at 54 with a nice union pension, sure. But upward mobility, the real kind, the kind where you transcend class by leaps and bounds, clearly increased from the 1980’s forward.

                    12. Civil service jobs still exist like that, but private sector upward mobility? I wanna believe you , but my anecdotal experience tells me the class system here has tightened up a bit.

                    13. Tech. You don’t even need a degree in IT. It’s almost the Wild West.

                    14. Right?
                      Like the other day at a first communion party a kid comes up to me in a white jacket, gives me a Ritz cracker, and uh,chopped liver, he says Canapés. I say uh, uh, can o’ peas my ass, that’s a Ritz cracker and chopped liver!

                    15. cant find the article of course, but I remember one from the 1920s or 1930s where they were praising Stalin and socialism…

                    16. Don’t bother. It’s his go to source. You have better luck waiting for the New York Times apologizing for Walter Duranty’s lies and omissions of Stalin’s crimes.

                    17. Not to toot my own horn (ok, yes it is) but… I blew that headline the hell out of the water. 30, deep in debt due to massive student loans, and couldn’t get hired anywhere unless I pretended I wasn’t educated.

                      Wrote some apps, paid everything off, got the hell out of Dodge and now live great in a country where my money goes a lot farther. (Not to mention thinner women but I don’t want to get too old-site-ish.) 🙂

                    18. What I’ve heard about modern society is that we have the highest percentage of first generation millionaires in recorded history, or something to that effect. Would seem to imply that socioeconomic mobility is pretty high.

                    19. It’s true. And if i became a millionaire tomorrow….a net worth of 1m….I wouldn’t be able to quit my job.

                      Sure, it is easier for this generation to go from not having 1 mil to having 1 mil. Shit, any wage monkey who is smart enough to put max per week into a 401k and stays with the same job for 40 years will manage that. Honestly, going from absolutely nothing to being worth a million dollars in one lifetime simply isn’t very impressive anymore.

                      Let me see someone go from absolute nothing to 9 figures on their own smarts and guts. Impossible? No. But difficult. Saying that this generation has the highest percentage of first generation millionaires in recorded history isn’t much different than saying this generation has the highest variety of internet porn than any other generation in recorded history.

                    20. You’re not really contradicting my point. I’m not saying that you can retire on $1m, just that ANYONE in America can change their socioeconomic position. We’re not bound by what class/caste we’re born into.

                    21. Right. And it’s true. But the point I’m making here is that going from not a millionaire to a millionaire don’t mean what it used to.

                      People have always been able to change socioeconomic position in America. That’s the beauty of this place. I am a member of the club that did that. However, as the swing gets bigger the chances of being able to do it get smaller.

                      Going from middle class to upper middle class is laudable, but not exactly difficult.

                      Going from nothing to Gold Coast financial godhood is quite difficult and even more so in the early 20th century when a clever superapp that could make you a fortune wasn’t really a thing

                      Difficult, not impossible

                    22. Granted and I see your point and agree in some respects. My initial comment was in reference to Jammy’s argument that we’re becoming increasingly LESS mobile, something I don’t believe is the case, partially for reasons you listed. Anyone can make a dopey little phone app and have it be the next big thing. I would argue modern technology has made us the most socioeconomically mobile we’ve ever been, or at the very least, has increased the OPPORTUNITIES available to change your position in life by absurd levels.

                    23. oh..i see. i got lost in the thread. Def not LESS mobile for all the reasons you say.

                      Funny though, when you take the numbers out of the equation and just look at it just in terms of class designation i would suggest if anything it has probably stayed the same more or less.

                    24. Socioeconomic mobility aside, you still cannot get JUSTICE! I believe in America. America has made my fortune. And I raised my daughter in the American fashion. I gave her freedom, but — I taught her never to dishonor her family. She found a boyfriend; not an Italian. She went to the movies with him; she stayed out late. I didn’t protest. Two months ago, he took her for a drive, with another boyfriend. They made
                      her drink whiskey. And then they tried to take advantage of her. She resisted. She kept her honor. So they beat her, like an animal. When I went to the hospital, her nose was a’broken. Her jaw was a’shattered, held together by wire. She couldn’t even weep because of the pain. But I wept. Why did I weep? She was the light of my life — beautiful girl. Now she will never be beautiful again. I — I went to the police, like a good American. These two boys were brought to trial. The judge sentenced them to three years in prison — suspended sentence. Suspended sentence! They went free that very day! I stood in the courtroom like a fool. And those two bastard, they smiled at me. Then I said to my wife, “for justice, we must go to Don Corleone.

                    25. “Going from middle class to upper middle class is laudable, but not exactly difficult.”
                      again, I’d challenge this based purely on ‘what I think’.
                      Yes, difficult, we hear you.

                    26. Now we’re talking about a life time. Kid born into…well….us….gets tossed into a trade school, gets a nice local 1 card, gets a gig with some big outfit like Fred Smith. Has some brains in his head, puts as much as he can into a 401k and lives at or below his means. 40 years later retires to florida having enough money to own a nice home, never have to work again and be relevant in local politics. Sure, no problem. I mean hard work, but lets not make it like going from an Elmhurst shit hole to being retired in a house with a pool is going to take any real special talents

                    27. “millionaire” aint what it used to be. ALSO our current generation has the most affluent parentage (in general) ever. And that is huge.

                    28. Mobility yes…mobility at the extremes that gatsby realized without any real formal education and no one to lend a helping hand….possible, but a study in pure will power and determination.

                2. “Just pumped up chumps living out masturbatory key board fantasy lives”

                  Please, tell us more about yourself.

                1. I remember a ROK article about Louis Lamour. When I was a kid I made fun of my oldest brother for being a bookworm. It surprised me when I read about him. The guy had a life.

                  I was more of a Patrick McManus fan.

                    1. Really, he just hasn’t gotten around to writing anything else.
                      Before, figured he’d be writing more, but so far only 2 articles…or was it
                      3?

              3. cant get any more red pill than Cormac McCarthy. dude’s getting old, buy some of his books- The Road, No Country for Old Men, Blood Meridian

        1. I’m not being wise-ass here, but was this before or after you’re ah, domestic melt-down? Did one simply confirm the other?

          1. in my early 30s but I thought I could tame the shrews. I failed deservedly. I should have listened to the message.

    2. I would like to verify @disqus_e5hyuZuRQ6:disqus ‘s statement. For years now a growing number of
      my constituents have been trolls — and I have come to know them well. They have honored me
      with their support and with their friendship. Indeed I can proudly say some of my very best friends are trolls. However, Mr. Mods, at this time very unfortunately I have to leave these proceedings in order to preside over a very important committee of my own website. But before I leave I do want to say this. These disparaging remarks on the Godfather trolling are in no way what-so-ever a slur upon the great trolling community. Because I can state from my own knowledge and experience — that trolls are among the most loyal — most law-abiding — patriotic, hard working American citizens in this land. And it would be a shame. Mr. Mod if we allowed a few rotten apples to bring a bad name to the whole barrel. Because from the time of the great @g(r)apefruit up through the time of @bem right up to the present day — trolls have been pioneers in building and defending our great websites. They are the soil o’ the earth and one of the backbones of AKC.

      1. Yeah, well let’s cut out the bullshit. I don’t want
        to spend any more time here than I have to. You can troll all you want, the price
        is 250,000 dollars. Plus a monthly payment of 5% of the quotes — of BOTH movies. Mister….WB.

          1. Because I intend to squeeze you. I don’t like your kind of people. I don’t
            like to see you come out to this clean website in your stupid quotes dressed up
            in those silly lifting shoes- and try to pass yourselves off as decent Americans. I’ll
            do godfathering with you, but the fact is, I despise your masquerade the
            dishonest way you pose yourself. Yourself, and your whole fucking family.

            1. @bem- we’re both part of the same hypocrisy. But never think it applies to my family and never threaten to squeeze me. I’m no grapefruit. Yeah I heard that story.

  2. @disqus_tj7gjZttfg:disqus , my client has answered every question asked by this committee with utmost sincerity — he has not taken
    the 5th amendment as it was his right to do.

  3. More important than learning to read, is learning to question what you read – George Carlin

  4. OT: Stock Market dropping today. There is a rumor that this is being done on purpose to overshadow the State of the Uniom address. But that’s just a rumor.

                  1. Wall Drug takes a while to get through. Whole mess of shops, plus some nice cool ice water for free. You can spend literally hours there before you move on.

    1. I would love to be able to troll the Hollywood celeb version of the State of the Union…whatever it’s called, just to heckle Mark Ruffalo.
      “That’s right, Mark, get angry! They won’t like you when you’re angry!”

    2. according to these NYU students, the address happened days ago and they didnt like one word of it

        1. astonishing, aint it? careers in government await all of them. and thats frightening

      1. Buncha fuckin morons who are so stubborn they will lie and act like they know what’s going on rather than admit they don’t know.
        How easily led are these dumbos!
        They don’t eat grapefruit.

  5. holy mackeral- the house intel committee voted to release the memo- you think we’ll actually see it?

      1. I just hope jammy doesnt harm himself. a friend should chain him to a radiator for the next few days(super moon too)

        1. I just hope he will have the decency to clear Trump’s name with the same publicity with which he had besmirched it.

          1. The Lord Jesus Christ himself could descend from Heaven on a bridge of gleaming golden clouds to pronounce Trump pure and innocent of all crimes, and Jammy would call him a liar and start “What about”ing him.

    1. In a way that kind of relates to the article, insofar as people should have been questioning since day one all of the bullshit that the FBI and the deep state have been doing since the Obama days. But they didn’t.

    2. Probably. We’ll also get to see the Democrat’s version of the secret memo, where they basically cross out Obama and add in Trump or some shit.

      1. the political theater is better than any scripted drama on tv. rumor is O is seeking out legal teams in other countries just in case
        also- wasnt “question everything” the XFiles tagline?

        1. “the political theater is better than any scripted drama on tv
          ding ding ding ding!!!!

          because the WHOLE THING is ‘made for TV’ infotainment!

  6. I wonder why do people subscribe to a universal thread that weaves the fabric of their lives. Most accept everything they’re told without batting an eye. It is important to question everything you know.

    It’s like virtuosos wrote people’s thoughts as if it is a symphony. All of it transcribed under supervision of those in charge and everyone just plays their composition without thinking. People don’t know who they are and they wander never knowing as if they are born and bred to be conditioned inside an intellectual prison. Fuck this system.

    I wholeheartedly agree with the message of this article. The only thing I can add to this is: wander, question and find your obsession because knowledge beckons.

      1. Lookit here son, I say son, don’t talk to it! That makes about as much sense as a sack full of wet mice!

              1. Yet another on the long list of “Movies that could not be made today without causing mass hysteria and snowflake rioting”

                  1. If someone made a list of the Top 5 Funniest Movies Featuring C. Thomas Howell, this would be in the top 2 or 3.

      1. He won’t come near your anus after a night of Habanero Doritos Chimichangas at Taco Bell and a six pack of Milwaukee’s Be-a-st.

        1. And that’s what I call some nifty aboriginal spouse, from some shithole like Haiti or Africa for example, telling her husband:

          “I coulda swore de snake was deaded after me boil ‘im and you eat it”.

  7. Jak, you’re an engineer, right? It’s interesting to watch you come to the realization that **critical thinking is good.**

    Q: What’s the best way to build critical thinking skills?
    A: A classical liberal arts education.

    Not the corrupted current version of the liberal arts, but the classical version, the one I received.

    Just sayin’.

    1. False.
      Best way to build critical thinking skills is with math and hands-on mechanics. I’ll take the bridge built by the math nerd over the one by the drama faeg.

      1. Dude — drama is fine arts. Get your terms straight. The diploma for drama even says B.F.A.

        Liberal arts is logic, philosophy, rhetoric, literature, history — and, starting in the 1700s, economics.

        1. Not a one of those which will help design proper struts on a bridge. I think Bem’s point stands, although I do see the value in some exposure to liberal arts. Unfortunately they’re so politicized in college now to the Left that even many Leftists are struggling to justify taking the courses any longer.

          1. Bem has muddied the waters. Critical thinking is used across one’s life in almost every possible field.

            1. You can build critical thinking quite efficiently without once, ever, having attended a class on Feminist Interpretations of Ancient Chinese Art.

              1. Attending any class named “feminist interpretations” has been shown to actually decrease your critical thinking skills.

                1. Or get a degree in something you can apply in a career. Engineering teaches a lot of problem solving and critical thinking that can apply to many fields

                  1. IMHO engineers are absolutely excellent at solving problems AS LONG AS those problems exist inside a context of mechanical certainty. They’re trained to look for the simplest solutions.

                    However, they’re often absolutely atrocious if asked to work on a problem in which no certain solution exists. Ya know, the gray area. General humanities type problems, such as educational issues, literary analysis, etc. In those circumstances, engineers tends to fall back on one saying- “It’s as simple as that.” That’s a fallacy. It’s never that simple, not in the world of liberal arts.

                    If you’re interested, look up the difference between convergent and divergent thinking. That’ll explain it even further.

                    (FYI to all – this is one of my professional areas of expertise. I deal with this all the time.)

                    1. In what world would an engineer, as part of his job, have to work on literary analysis? Your complaint is the same as an engineer noting that liberal arts people can’t solve even simple algebraic equations.

                    2. It’s an observation. I’m not criticizing engineers.

                      I am however, criticizing those who say that engineers are **superior** to classically-trained liberal arts professionals (economists, archaeologists, editors, etc). That’s false.

                    3. You’re taking the context out in order to keep it all subjective. Engineers ARE superior at engineering and logical tasks. Liberal arts people ARE superior at navel gazing and ivory tower theories. It’s all good.

                    4. And with that you blew your credibility. I have stated, ad infinitum, that liberal arts are every bit as classical — and rigorous — when taught correctly. And they’re useful to society. Your blathering away that liberal arts people are “navel gazers” shows that you have zero interest in broadening your viewpoint.

                      That’s fine. People will keep paying ME for my understanding of these issues, and they won’t be paying you. Cheers.

                    5. First, you’re not the supreme judge of credibility, second, humor apparently is alien to you (can’t tell a joke from actual analysis, derp). Third, I have never claimed that liberal arts degrees are worthless, in fact I claimed the opposite to you already on this thread. Last, I have an entire library of canonical literature sitting directly here in front of me in my office that I’ve read through and contemplated, and will continue to read through, Mr. “Broaden Your Viewpoint”. But you assume, of course, that if one doesn’t agree with your views and kowtow and genuflect to your amazing intellect, then one clearly is a reprobate. A typical conceit, to be certain.

                      Your snobby elitism and sneering, on the other hand, is the kind of thing that I find with many self absorbed liberal arts majors though, so I think you are legit in that field, no question. And people pay me quite well for my problem solving skills by the way, thanks chief.

                    6. No one is paying you for your understanding of the history of education, that much is for fucking sure.

                    7. How superior you are! Gosh!

                      Again, typical sneering elitism. Such a common tell.

                    8. I agree with you. Different people are trained to have different skill sets. None are inferior or superior, but are suited to their respective fields.

                    9. It is true that if a job calls for an engineer getting a GOOD engineer is probably the best (though a crappy engineer, like a crappy anything, will be just as useless at the job as anyone else). The problem with the liberal arts in their purest form is that people really don’t understand it because they haven’t taken the time, don’t have the chops, don’t have the desire or are basically just dipshits…when people don’t understand things they get hostile towards them…it is infantile behavior and the reason that the good research out there is maligned by people who couldn’t tell the difference between their ass and their elbow and just assume that the things they like are true and the things they don’t are gay.

                    10. Thanks WB. Would you please engrave that on a wooden plaque and send to GoJ’s house? He’s a dipshit who can’t understand how two fields can coexist separately and equally. Arrogance and ignorance, united in a single human.

                    11. It is the exact same kind of pathology that leads idiot women to think that there is a wage gap. If you look at a very large and complex question with very, very narrow and ignorant vision, focus on a single variable and run full speed ahead caring less about the issue and more about your own hypersentive emotions you see how quickly someone can come to “men make more than women” or “liberal arts is just some bullshit” or whatever.

                      It is an understandable pathology. Sad, but understandable.

                    12. Exactly. He’s got a head full of cement that will not admit new information if it doesn’t agree with his already strong confirmation bias.

                    13. there is a problem on the other side as well jammy. Too many people, and I put myself on the list of people who made this mistake, eventually fool themselves into the idea that the liberal arts make a suitable vocation for people that would have been better off using it as an avocation.

                      This isn’t to say that some people don’t do very fine in the ole thinkin’ business, but like any ponzi scheme the life of the mind is sold a little heavy to the majors who wind up realizing that they have 20 years of debt for a job that pays dick.

                      I think everyone should have a rigorous dose of liberal arts — the real deal stuff. In my business, which is about as far removed from the academy as humanly possible, not a day goes by where I don’t draw on the underpinning methodology and skills I learned whilst becoming a professional bullshit artist.

                      While Jacques Derrida doesn’t play heavily in very many of the day to day decisions I make, learning to properly understand how to unpack the Grammatology and the hermenuetic skills of wide breadth interpretation that I learned years ago most certainly does.

                      As for those who can’t or won’t see it for whatever reason, meh….they are to be given pity rather than disdain. It is truly the last and finally form of alienation…alienation from the self. I always liked the way William Barrett put it:

                      “Man’s feeling of homelessness, of alienation has been intensified in the
                      midst of a bureaucratized, impersonal mass society. He has come to feel
                      himself an outsider even within his own human society. He is terribly
                      alienated: a stranger to God, to nature, and to the gigantic social
                      apparatus that supplies his material wants.

                      But the worst and
                      final form of alienation, toward which indeed the others tend, is man’s
                      alienation from his own self. In a society that requires of man only
                      that he perform competently his own particular social function, man
                      becomes identified with this function, and the rest of his being is
                      allowed to subsist as best it can – usually to be dropped below the
                      surface of consciousness and forgotten “

                    14. I totally agree with you. Because it’s more difficult to earn a living in the liberal arts, liberal arts majors should be reserved for those who are really motivated and show a clear aptitude for that field. History, for example, should NOT be a fallback major the way it’s used today. But we all need a good dose of the stuff.

                    15. Liberal ARTS:
                      ARTists need patrons, so ‘making a living at __arts should be considered a fallacy. Their study should be seen as foundational to others.

                    16. That’s a bit broad, bem. Writing, both fiction and technical, fall into the the liberal arts field and both are market driven, not patron driven (although patronage itself is a market of sorts, I mean the broader general market). Language skills are also critical for many fields that do not require patronage.

                    17. ” Language skills are also critical for many fields that do not require patronage.
                      see “foundational” above

                    18. Actually writing is a standalone career, or at least, can be. Authors, all that kind of thing. Foundational means, to me (and maybe you’re using it differently here), a base upon which other more functional skills can be built into a career. I’d say linguists would fall into that as well, but in the age of instant computer translation I think that they’re falling out of favor pretty quickly. That said, it would be hard for a machine to translate nuance and phrasing, slang, etc. so maybe not?

                    19. My boss once said he is more impressed with a well-crafted letter than a design drawing (we draw buildings and stuff here). Clearly expressing your thoughts through language will bring success in any field.
                      Success as a stand alone? Not sure. Being a (financially) successful author is like achieving any celebrity – excellence is only one piece of the puzzle.

                    20. Not sure how that really relates to what I was saying though. Writing is a career (or can be) so it’s not necessarily a foundation used for other careers exclusively.

                    21. I think a lot of liberal arts people really do a disservice to the field by trying to push for majors. Like you say, there are people with the aptitude for this stuff and they can, with proper instruction, do wonderful things. The glut in the industry, a lot of it starting with people drafting vietnam by geting advanced degrees, jumping into tenure spots and stubbornly refusing to die while filling the heads of their students with draft dodging hippie left wing bullshit has been a huge problem and a very big disservice. Like most problems, if the perception of the liberal arts is going to go back to what it was before the war…as serious scholarship….there will need to be some changes from within….something I honestly do not see ever happening.

                    22. As a history nerd, I agree. I use historical precedents to see how things will most likely shake out, but I would not rely on a history degree to provide my income

                    23. This is, for 95% of the people who study a liberal art, the best and only valid approach at looking at it. A small percentage will go on to really enjoying and finding a fulfilling life pondering the concept of historicity, how the dialectic of history plays our and what this has to do with us as a species of sentient beings and will make a career and life out of it which they will enjoy. Some people also very much enjoy the clergy. Same thing. Not everyone who believes in god or is interested in theology needs to become a priest.

                    24. Yup. Just because you like history doesn’t mean you should make a career out of it either. The problem is that history isn’t a field that brings in a lot of money, so departments need to be proactive in recruiting to keep their funding up and professors of dubious credentials and ethics wind up convincing a bunch of impressionable kids (read: idiots) that taking on a quater million in debt and spending a decade at the university to get a job with a starting salary of 45k is a fantastic idea.

                      Imagine if every Pastor of a congregation, upon hearing someone had both faith and interest in community, vociferously tried to convince them to be a pastor. This is what has taken place since the 1960’s in Liberal Arts education.

                    25. That was every high school back then. Somebody comes to them and says “I have a jack kerouak book. if you write in this note book and go to poetry slams you will get rich and fuck all the women” so they can’t resist.

                      Thank god I idolized yuppies and jocks

                    26. I actually see that to some extent in our church fellowship. Every preacher pushes to be a pastor, but we can’t all be pastors. A pastor is like a CEO, he needs men to take care of the more mundane so he can focus on the Word. We have 7 lay ministers in my church, each over different areas of ministry. None of us are pressing to be pastor, because we haven’t been pushed into that mindset where you’re a failure if you’re not pastoring.

                      I heard a pastor lament this fact. He said it’s supposed to be a five-fold ministry but pastors hold all the power because they hold all the money. It was an eye-opening statement for me.

                    27. That’s actually an issue in our church fellowship. Every preacher is pushed to be a pastor. They are seen as a failure if they aren’t either pastoring or traveling the country evangelizing. But a local pastor needs men to help with the more mundane functions of church so he can focus on the Word. We have 7 lay ministers who are over the various ministries in our church for that purpose, but we are seen as failures by some because we’re not out “on our own”.

                      I heard a pastor lament this fact once. He stated how there is supposed to be a five-dfold ministry but now pastors are the dominant force because they hold all of the money. Eye opening statement right there

                    28. Nothing like passive aggressiveness, eh Susy? Do they pay you by the word for that, or do you do it piecework?

                      This is why I stay away from weightier discussions with you. You go straight for ad hominem, sneering and feminine passive aggressiveness. Every. Single. Time. It destroys any merit your arguments may have, right out of the gate.

                      I’ve already stated that there is value in a liberal arts education, right at the beginning, but in your rush to be superior, I guess that kind of slipped by your immense intellect and awe inspiring critical reading skills.

                    29. Ah, the dismal science. I don’t know how old you are, but high schools have developed a new course in the last decade called Human Geography. It mixes econ, anthropology, culture, statistics, human migration, and history. It’s really, really cool — wish I could’ve taken it. You might enjoy it.

                    30. “Human Geography. It mixes econ, anthropology, culture, statistics, human
                      migration, and history. It’s really, really cool — wish I could’ve
                      taken it. You might enjoy it.”

                      Sounds stupid.

                    31. problem is, almost all engineers have their hands tied by a plethora of design specifications. The simple solution isn’t always the legal solution. In order to protect from liability, stuff is overdesigned.

                    32. Because all those other problems are bullshit that could be solved with a simple engineering solution if people had the will to implement.

                      Seriously though i can see engineers getting hung up on smaller details or trying to implement something that doesnt account for the human aspect. Ie HMIs etc. But your orignal post seemed to suggest that engineers dont have critical thinking skills which i would disagree with.

                    33. Critical thinking skills are applied to every part of life. Nobody has a monopoly on critical thinking, neither STEM nor liberal arts.

                    34. This is problematic thinking. Remember, engineering is the plumbing of science. Plumbing is necessary on every level of humanity for sure, but it isn’t the field that takes the brains…great engineers take a certain skill set. Those kids over at MIT are no different than the kids at devry…they are very clever in terms of taking the work of thinkers and bringing it into the real world — one of the reasons the people at Princeton often call MIT “the vocational college.”

                      IN the end, hilarious rivalries like army/navy aside, both sides of this coin are necessary.

                    35. Well it proves one thing, Mr. Hooper. It proves that you wealthy college boys don’t have the education enough to admit when you’re wrong.

                    36. I am not going to stand here, and see that thing cut open, and see that little Kintner boy spill out all over the dock!

                2. Yep, same for any “Marxist Interpretation” type classes. While there may be value to looking at something through the Marxist view (I’ll state simply for the sake of argument) those kind of classes are nothing but indoctrination centers to recruit kids into whatever they’re calling the communist party on campus that day (Democratic Socialists, etc).

                  Basically almost any classes you’d take for a degree with the word “Studies” in it, is hogwash.

                1. The internet is a wonderful thing, ain’t it? Imagine society by now if we didn’t have the opportunity to question reality.

                  1. TPTB didnt even want us to have PCs- they were deemed a national security threat, but Commodore managed to get them on the market before the kibosh could be put on em

                    1. Maybe if they had stopped at PCs, long before we got to Smart Phones. Smart Phones will be the death of us all.

                    2. You know you got to stop them at the beginning, like they should have stopped Bill Gates at Microsoft, They should never’ve let himget away with MSDOS.They were just asking for big trouble.

                      You know, Ain, we was all proud of you, being a troll and all. @WB Fitness:disqus too.

                    3. I don’t think we really could go back inside within a generation. Facts are facts, and no amount of repetitive, baseless “girls are oppressed” would make me believe strange women are entitled to my (and my family’s) resources, my elevated risk, or my guilt.

                    1. youre all about critical thinking skills, yet you think he acted alone.
                      a plot to take out Carter was uncovered early. Im sure you can look it up. One guy was “named” Oswaldo-something; another guy had either harvey or lee in his “name”. coincidence for sure

                    2. It’s a smart move — Carter was always smarter. But I’m gonna wait — after the assasination. I’ve decided to be conspiracy theories to AKC. And then I’ll meet with zapruder– and Justice Warren– all of the heads of the Tin Foil Lunacy …

            2. When — when did I ever muddy the waters? All of you know me here —
              when did I ever muddy? Except one time. And why? Because I believe this Liberal Arts bullshit is gonna destroy us in the years to come. I mean, it’s not like metalwork or masonry or trigonometry, even calculus —
              which is something that most people need nowadays, and is forbidden to
              them by the pezzonovante of the Department of Education.
              And I believed that — then — and I believe that now.

                1. Hey, whataya gonna a do, nice college boy, eh? Didn’t want to get mixed up in the Family business, huh? Now you wanna whack some guy, why, because he posted some Godfather quotes? Hah! What do you think this is, a bikers club, where you ride over and beat some guy up? You gotta play them at their own game like this and post Godfather quotes all over the comments section. Come’re…

                  1. Ignore I had the video editing skills I wouldn’t edit you guys profile pictures to the guys who got whacked

        1. When Carol drops her groceries in the opening, oranges are seen rolling down the sidewalk. It could be yet another reference to The Godfather, where oranges are known as a sign of incoming violence.
          Oranges previously made a prominent appearance after Ted Beneke crashed into a cabinet, and a number of oranges fell on him. (“Crawl Space”)
          ……
          I can confirm citrus is a sign of incoming violence.
          …. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6321a9d1f40a685a554e60cb8d66f4606ff68835358780a9f05ed7df37d05234.jpg

        1. If you’re referring to the article, I’ll be honest; I haven’t read a single word of it. I only read J.Nyx’s and Jim Johnson’s stuff.

          Heh.

          1. Look the AKC guys promised me a deal. So I made up a lot of stuff about
            Jak ’cause that’s what they wanted, but it was all lies – everything. And I kept saying Jak did this and Jak did that, so I said yea sure, why not.

    1. That’s insane. He has never had a human emotion in his life except maybe frustration that he couldn’t get what he wanted.

        1. HA! One of the smartest cats i ever met was an Oberlin grad. He wound up going to a real school for grad school….but always had some sense of oberlin pride. I imagine he was the white sheep of the family.

          1. I was excited at the idea of a cat going to college. So many places to nap in the sun.
            But then you said sheep. Now I’m confused.

    1. I’d like to read or see something proposing a positive future for once. Like instead of Totalitarianism and War and Starvation and Kid-Death-Matches,maybe, just maybe a world where hot dogs and hot dog buns are commonly sold in the same quantities…

      1. What about Brave New World?

        One of these days i will get around to writing the article on dystopias in movies and literature that are really utopias. Footloose? Come on? A town where dancing is illegal? GTFO

        1. “Footloose? Come on? A town where dancing is illegal?”

          No shit. Only saw that flick once and couldn’t help but notice that after 2 decades of hippies, riots, drug culture, sexual liberation, etc.. there is the cow town in the midwest where a preacher has this type of sway wtih the local authorities? GTFO. The only thing accurate was the preachers daughter was a tramp.

          1. It suffers from the same cultural myopia as other forms of leftism. Talk to any Dem politician and it’s still 1915 with blacks being hosed down in the streets and denied access to white water fountains. They need to maintain their story lines, regardless of how little it applies to modern realities, or their entire dogma falls flat on the ground.

            1. Yup. The left is a cult and their narrative can never be questioned (pandoras box not to be opened), so the problem must be the beliver’s slipping faith (double-down, repent your white privledge) or the infidels (racists, nazis, homophobes, etc..) who will not bow to the “true” ideology.

              I used to buy the London Times Sunday edition and recall reading an article about a male journalist and his dicussion with a friend who was a feminst. He layed out his position in a logical order backed with sources. She told him point blank that all his observations and articluations on the subject were sound, but she simply would not consider them. She said, “if I had to honeslty think about your views it would force me to revaluate my opinions on feminism and other issues and I am simply NOT going to do that.”

              They prefer lies over the truth.

              1. You are asking too much from a woman. Next, you will demand they abide by the same standards of men in the army!!!!

        1. These are wonderful things that we’ve achieved in Landscaping– and there’s no limit to where we can go from here. This kind of Utopia knows how to help landscaping …to encourage it — the shrubs here are bigger and swankier than any of the ones we’ve put in in England– and we can thank our friends in the horticulture institute — which has put up half of the seeds with the Knights who Say Nee on a Shrub for Shrub basis — has relaxed restrictions on fertilizer. What I am saying now is we have what we have always needed — real partnership with the government.

          1. you hear about those tax abatements on nyc apts expiring? segment on a couple from LIC, payment went from $2100 to $3800 this month

            1. yup. Either the market will regulate it or not. But the thing is, with the couple from LIC, if they can’t afford it they are more then welcome to GTFO. This is NYC. Someone will pay it.

                1. In LIC? 3800 probably 2 unless it is in one of the towers like the TF Cornerstone building and on a very high floor with western exposures. Then I could see it being a nice size one.

                  I just put an app on a new place. I am as excited as a freaking kid in a candy store.

                  1. Argh. I can’t even fuck with grapefruit in peace. Fine. You’re not Murdoc. You’re also probably not Kersey, he is differently AIDS’d.

            1. Wrong again. It’s “Fuck you! I won’t do what you tell me!”

              Get the damn punctuations right!

      1. I also don’t believe in Acai. For years I paid my people extra so they wouldn’t eat that kind of
        business. Somebody comes to them and says, “I have fruits from the rainforest; if you put up three, four dollar investment – you can getfifty thousand antioxidents.” So they can’t resist. I want to control it as a business, to keep it respectable. I don’t want it near schools – I don’t want it sold to children! That’s an infamia. In my city, we would keep the traffic in the south american people – the Brazilians. They’re animals anyway, so let them lose their souls.

        1. I am of the opinion that there are no magical foods out there. Maximize variety while making sure you get the proper proportion of macronutrients, and you will do well.

            1. or…..
              you start out with a little bit of oil. Then you fry some garlic. Then you throw in some tomatoes, tomato paste, you fry it; ya make sure it doesn’t stick. You get it to a boil; you shove in all your sausage and your meatballs; And a little bit o’ wine. An’ a little bit o’ sugar,
              and that’s my trick.

            2. First caveman to eat an egg………..

              “Hey, you see that bird right there? Very next thing that comes out of it’s butt, I’m gonna eat it”
              “You go right ahead, Zog”

              “mmmmm……..this is actually pretty good, wanna try some?”
              “I’ll pass”

                1. Cooked up some clams for the kids the other day. To my surprise, they all loved them, including the 1 year old.

            1. musical….not magical. There is a poem I learned in fourth grade:

              Beans, beans, the musical fruit,
              The more you eat, the more you toot,
              The more you toot, the better you feel,
              Beans beans, for every meal!

              1. Here I sit all broken hearted
                Tried to shit but only farted.
                Wasted a dime oh what the hell
                May as well sit and enjoy the smell

                That one is *really* old. Pay toilets? That’s like from the stone age right?

                1. Does 2008 qualify as the stone age? That’s the last time I recall using one.

                  Although it wasn’t in the US, if that changes things. 12.5¢.

                  1. I generally am speaking of the U.S. when I say things like that. I understand that you’re bound to regress several years to several centuries depending on where else in the world you visit, at least potentially. I mean, Liberia, sure, you can basically count on them not even having invented writing yet. Saudi Arabia I’d expect that you’re still going to find camels roaming about with people on them. Canada, I wouldn’t be surprised to find a pay toilet. And so on.

                2. The San Francisco version went something like this:

                  When I reach under the stall door
                  I feel like such a dirty whore
                  That note written on toilet paper I must pass
                  So I can get filled in the ass

          1. He tolerated his fellow Englishmen, but the Welsh were cabbage-farting dwarves, the Scots were scabby arse-suckers, and the French were shriveled turds.

            1. Yeah, best not to get up to that part though. Rocking bod, credit where it’s due.

              1. I don’t think you can even call her a butter face. The face isn’t that bad, and the +++ body makes up from what little the face lacks.

                1. Something about her face just strikes me as Tranny-esque. I’m not a fan of that kind of square jawed long faced look, but I do know others may be.

                  1. I’m not a fan either, but part of that is that she probably has a higher T level from all the working out to get her body to look like that. And, what would normally be rounder, more feminine features in her face are drawn and tight from cutting weight, dehydration to look more cut, etc. Plus, she probably has had some plastic surgery, which always ends up looking bad.

                    1. No question. Not a bit of a question. I’m just saying, it’s not my thing. Maybe it’s that and the dark hair and almost Greek looking eyebrows, which I’m on the record as not being the biggest fan of (although there are exceptions to every rule). Dunno. She just doesn’t turn my crank, unless I keep my gaze below the face. Great body though, totally great.

                      It’s all a matter of taste, so there’s no right or wrong answer here. Just never heard of her before until just now.

                    2. In all honesty, if I were dropped off into Greece or most of southern Italy, I might well become a hermit in pretty quick order. Dark hair just never did it for me, with some notable exceptions, all of which were basically Nordic chicks with dark hair. The whole Mediterranean look, eh, just doesn’t thrill me much. A “me” thing, no question. Although, as noted, I’m not a fan of square jawed chicks either, regardless of hair color.

                  2. Not sure if tranny, but it appears she gets more testosterone than most. Good muscle tone, but I would require a blood test before I kissed her.

                    1. See? Thank you, I was starting to wonder if I was mis-reading this.

                    2. Yuck. I love bikini models and not-so-pro fitness models (not weightlifting, more like yoga/aerobic types), but that shit there, that’s nasty.

          1. WRF (Would Run From)

            Please tell me this isn’t what passes as attractive in the US now? PLEASE? 🙂

  8. A rare politicalish OT for me

    Every woman in politics in any capacity at any part of the political spectrum is summed up perfectly in goodfellas

    “”And they had bad skin and wore too much makeup. I mean, they didn’t look very good. And the things they wore looked thrown-together and cheap! A lot of pantsuits and double knits!””

  9. OT: GOP Rep. Asks Capitol Hill Police To Arrest Illegal Aliens Attending State of the Union Address
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/01/gop-rep-asks-capitol-hill-police-arrest-illegal-aliens-attending-sotu-address/

    Why the fuck does someone have to ask the Capitol Hill police to arrest illegal aliens?
    Why the fuck would the Secret Service allow illegal aliens anywhere near the President, the Vice-President, the Congress, etc.?
    Better yet, why the fuck would anyone bring an illegal alien to the fucking State of the Uniom in the first place?

      1. Shit, six strippers in a hot tub makes for good TV, too, but I don’t see that at the State of the Uniom.

            1. This Mexican whore has no family — nobody knows that she worked here. It’ll be as if she never existed. All that’s left is our friendship, a donkey and some ping pong balls.

              1. Does Mr. Cha Cha Cha like it mean or do you just give it to him like that because you’re so gay?

                1. Well, we’ll see; the doctors would disagree, but
                  what do they know? These are wonderful things that we’ve achieved in Faggotry

            1. You racist fucker, why discriminate and not have a few female Obamas in there – and make it a bubble bath, so no one can see their cocks.

    1. Why the fuck would the Secret Service allow illegal aliens anywhere near the President

      9th circuit ruled keeping them away is an unconstitutional limit on petitioning the government for redress.

        1. Well, I just assume they did, anyway. Certainly, if they haven’t gotten around to it yet, they will soon.

        1. While I wasn’t being serious about such a 9th circuit ruling, I will point out that citizenship is not a requirement for constitutional protections. Broadly speaking, anyone subject to US jurisdiction is protected. Said another way, a European tourist cannot be seized and sold into slavery while visiting the US, regardless of how much we would like to.

          1. That’s a bit different than being an illegal citizen though. A European tourist presumably went through the legal process to come over here and VISIT. Illegal immigrants, however, didn’t.

            1. That’s fine. A non-legal visitor committed a crime which calls for deportation, but they are still provided due process, a constitutional requirement. There is nothing inconsistent with the constitution in dealing with and deporting an illegal.

          2. The laws apply to those tourists as well. You should hear the wails of butt hurt when a European is executed for murder in the US over here.

        2. This is a sticking point for many libs who equate basic human rights with Constitutional rights.
          Yes, illegal citizens have basic human rights like the right not to be tortured or sold as slaves, but they do NOT have the rights guaranteed under the Constitution.

        3. This county’s had illegals for the last 300
          years — it’s in their blood, believe me, I know. I’ve been coming here since
          the 70’s. We were running comments out of ROK when you were a baby — the quotes, owned by your godfather.

    1. There’s also this nugget of unassailable wisdom: “My best advice for dealing with that pain is not being such a pussy.”

  10. Just my 2 cents regarding raises. In my 30.5 years in IT I have done one five year stint. Other than that one contract I have never done more than 3.5 years. Jump around. That’s the best way to increase your comp, IMO.

            1. I don’t have your brain, uh, for computer-type stuff but this is a street thing. That @AutomaticSlim:disqus in Miami — he’s hittin’ that hairy sonofacitch.

              1. My @jnyx taught me many things here about trolling — he taught me on this room. He taught me — keep your friends close but your enemies closer. Now, if @automaticslim sees that I interceded in this thing, and cousin IT failed him, he’s gonna think his 30 year career is still good. Capide? That’s what I want him to think. I want him completely relaxed, and confident, in our friendship. Then I’ll be able to Godfather troll the fuck out of him.

                1. Now — Jesus Christ, @WB Fitness:disqus, Jesus Christ. Look,

                  let’s get ’em all — let’s get ’em all now, while we got the muscle.

      1. To get pay in increases. Also now the banks have time limits on contractors. Used to be limitless but now 3 yrs is standard.

    1. Yes, that is another method, but for those not looking to switch jobs or simply looking for a raise in their current job, being assertive and getting in there greatly improves your chances.

      1. Sure, I agree Jak.
        There is nothing wrong with asking. I have done that many times as well. But when I was young (under 35) the best increases I got were from moving to other companies.

      1. You know, I haven’t but I should have. Why was I loyal to these corporate weenies. In the same regard, I also have always paid hookers. I really do have a lot to learn from you…

    1. How pathetic. Why, just yesterday AKC had 394 comments!

      But, um, I’d recommend not looking at them. Just, uh, because.

      1. You talk about comment count– is comment count gonna bring ROK back to its former numbers? Or my site to glory? I forgo the comment count of my site– But I have selfish reasons. My favorite site — has people who don’t like all the trolling, — — because of this godfather quotes business. All right — and I have to make arrangements to make about 70 godfather quotes on tomorrow’s article — avoiding of all these whiny chumps. But I’m a superstitious man — and if some unlucky accident should befall them– if they should get deleted by the mods — or if they– should hang in moderation forever — or if they’re struck by a computer virus — then I’m going to blame some of the people in this room. And that, I do not
        forgive.

    2. If I could figure out the comment system i would help them out. What that site is missing is having a solid 35-50% of their daily comments be quotes from the godfather

            1. Bene. What they need is a man who has powerful friends. They need a million
              dollars in cash. They need, WB Fitness, those godfathering trolls that you carry in your pocket,like so many nickels and dimes.

      1. What do you think this is the Army, where you shoot GOJ a mile away? You’ve gotta get up close like this and – bada-BING! – you blow their brains all over your nice Ivy League suit.

          1. You do realize the Godfather is one of the top picks on BRAVO channel? I was hesitant to tell you guys a few days ago.

                1. BRAVO is the gay network and they have an obsession with the Godfather. I never figured out why. Haaaayyy they love masculine Italian studs.

      2. I whole-heartedly agree that the quantity of Godfather quotes at RoK is severely lacking, and that needs to be rectified forthwith and hereforth.

    3. that’s because everyone is competing for that $10 winning essay prize Roosh announced a few days ago. When you live in your mom’s basement , $10 is rent.

    4. Three things: uninspiring commenting system (let’s admit it, disqus is the best for now); happy trigger censorship (Why in the hell would you ban people like bem or Hypocrates (or whatever his name was), among others just for disagreeing with the author) and; too much negativism and too few useful articles. The ration is 1/2 or 3/5 at least of social criticism vs useful articles, whereas the proportion should be 3/10 in favor of useful articles.

      One can only take so much criticism withou falling in despair or getting desperate about doing something.

              1. My brother left high school as I entered freshman year and during the wrestling team roll call the coach yelled my last name followed by “Did you fail 12th grade?”

                1. Yeah, that dude is old and all, but y’all are missing the most awesomest part of that entire pic…. the “cobra hood” of Swayze’s swept back coif. That’s some bad ass hair, man.

          1. I knew that @dckhead_con_artist:disqus was going to have to go through all this. And
            @Ainigmaris Thales:disqus, well…..
            But I never — I never wanted this for you. I troll my whole life, I don’t apologize, to take care of this comments section. And I refused to be a fool dancing on the
            string, held by all those ‘moderators’. I don’t apologize — that’s my life. But I thought that — that when it was your time — that — that you would be the one to hold the strings. Senator JumpnJive. Governor – JumpnJive, or something…

            1. Socs like you always use Google. Don’t come down here to the East Side acting like you use Bing or Yahoo, soc.

      1. When I played soccer I remember 30 year olds that would wear their letter jackets around campus. They were on the 10 year plan for that Bachelors in Sports Management (glorified Gym Teaching)

    1. I’ve been seeing some strange behavior recently with the AKC/Firefox combo, too. Rendering issues usually start happening before a crash. Firefox quality has been on a steady decline for years, although I think the very recent thread re-architecting was a bright spot. Disqus tends to liberally tinker with things too, and has been known to break from time to time. I’d blame either of those before AKC, on that history-based reasoning.

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